[bangraman]

The T1 has a few issues for me 'as is', so I am doing the obvious Head-Fi thing and wondering if the HD800 is a better fit, as the only plausible alternative to the Beyer.
 
 
However, reading about the Senn in multiple posts, and reconciling the posted member's opinions against their views of other phones I owned, the HD800 begins to resemble a Qualia 010 in almost all respects. And a mini-or-almost-Qualia is *definitely* not what I want. And I'm not really into making more redundant purchases.
 
 
Could someone with direct personal experience describe the differences between the phones as concisely as possible?

 

[Sophonax]

Concisely (my opinions):
 
The HD800s have a thinner-bodied (though not overly thin) sound.  They have a treble response that is brighter than what I would call neutral.  The bass extension is fantastic, and the bass quantity is about what I would call neutral.  They are highly resolving, though slightly less punchy and more laid-back.  Best suited for classical.
 
The T1s have a somewhat euphonic, fuller-bodied sound.  They have a very smooth treble response, about what I would call neutral.  The bass extension is close to the HD800s but doesn't extend quite as far (very small difference).  The bass is stronger than the HD800s, a little stronger than neutral.  They are also highly resolving, and they are punchier and more forward / aggressive than the HD800s.  Best suited for rock, especially classic rock.
 
The mids on both headphones are outstanding, very smooth and transparent, but I tend to prefer the mids of the T1s for reasons I can't put my finger on.  It may be that the slightly stronger mid-bass on the T1s gives vocals a slightly fuller-bodied sound.
 
I have no experience with the Qualia, so I can't help you there.
 
What in particular do you find problematic with the T1s?

 

[shaggy]

 
Quote:

Concisely (my opinions):
 
The HD800s have a thinner-bodied (though not overly thin) sound.  They have a treble response that is brighter than what I would call neutral.  The bass extension is fantastic, and the bass quantity is about what I would call neutral.  They are highly resolving, though slightly less punchy and more laid-back.  Best suited for classical.
 
The T1s have a somewhat euphonic, fuller-bodied sound.  They have a very smooth treble response, about what I would call neutral.  The bass extension is close to the HD800s but doesn't extend quite as far (very small difference).  The bass is stronger than the HD800s, a little stronger than neutral.  They are also highly resolving, and they are punchier and more forward / aggressive than the HD800s.  Best suited for rock, especially classic rock.
 
The mids on both headphones are outstanding, very smooth and transparent, but I tend to prefer the mids of the T1s for reasons I can't put my finger on.  It may be that the slightly stronger mid-bass on the T1s gives vocals a slightly fuller-bodied sound.
 
I have no experience with the Qualia, so I can't help you there.
 
What in particular do you find problematic with the T1s?

can you also compare your T1 to you LA7000?

 

[MacedonianHero]

Try this (hope it helps):
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/472114/hd800-and-t1-musings