Owning 1 vs 2 endgame systems?
Jan 14, 2024 at 10:54 PM Post #31 of 62
Do the majority of people tube roll vs sticking with stock? I could drive myself crazy with all the options!
If you get a tube amp, half the fun is getting very neurotic about tube rolling options. I spent several months playing round with various rectifiers before one just felt right but heck, I thought audiophilia was partly about the sound and partly about the tinkering. :)
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 10:54 PM Post #32 of 62
Do the majority of people tube roll vs sticking with stock? I could drive myself crazy with all the options!

You roll based on how you like the sound. Most people don't roll and get an amp that doesn't need fancy tubes to sound great. If you have the money, WA33 Elite + JPS is A MUST for Susvara. The stock WA33 doesn't cut it as a true upgrade from the OOR+Hypsos IMHO.
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:01 PM Post #33 of 62
If you get a tube amp, half the fun is getting very neurotic about tube rolling options. I spent several months playing round with various rectifiers before one just felt right but heck, I thought audiophilia was partly about the sound and partly about the tinkering. :)
sure, why not add another neurosis to my existing list :)
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:03 PM Post #34 of 62
sure, why not add another neurosis to my existing list :)

I think tubes are for people who already have a feel for how individual components affect the over sound of their headphones. That's when the desire to chase the dragon with tubes and tube rolling comes :)
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:05 PM Post #35 of 62
You roll based on how you like the sound. Most people don't roll and get an amp that doesn't need fancy tubes to sound great. If you have the money, WA33 Elite + JPS is A MUST for Susvara. The stock WA33 doesn't cut it as a true upgrade from the OOR+Hypsos IMHO.
What is JPS?...... Have you heard the WA23 luna as well? Sounds like that is more tubey, while the 33 sits in-between the luna and solid state.. If I can't go wrong with WA maybe I just pick one of those two.
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:06 PM Post #36 of 62
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:07 PM Post #37 of 62
I think tubes are for people who already have a feel for how individual components affect the over sound of their headphones. That's when the desire to chase the dragon with tubes and tube rolling comes :)
I agree partially. I also think there is a certain "analog" appeal which appeals to some. The same way the "kids" (from my 50+ year old perspective) are re-embracing vinyl.
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:10 PM Post #38 of 62
What is JPS?...... Have you heard the WA23 luna as well? Sounds like that is more tubey, while the 33 sits in-between the luna and solid state.. If I can't go wrong with WA maybe I just pick one of those two.

JPS is the upgraded wiring assembly inside the WA33. WA23 does not enough juice to power the Susvara to party time levels. It'll work greatly for 85-90 dB listening but not when I want to watch Blu-Ray at IMAX SPL levels for example where you feel that subterranean rumbling of Hans Zimmer tracks
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:20 PM Post #39 of 62
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:25 PM Post #40 of 62
I think tubes are for people*** who already have a feel for how individual components affect the over sound of their headphones. That's when the desire to chase the dragon with tubes and tube rolling comes :)
*** Silly rabbit!,
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tubes aren't for kids!
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:36 PM Post #41 of 62
JPS is the upgraded wiring assembly inside the WA33. WA23 does not enough juice to power the Susvara to party time levels. It'll work greatly for 85-90 dB listening but not when I want to watch Blu-Ray at IMAX SPL levels for example where you feel that subterranean rumbling of Hans Zimmer tracks
85-90 is my max. Given that, would you prefer the 33 or 23?
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:40 PM Post #44 of 62
Make sure to run the Susvara on the Hi impedance mode with the WA23. It gives better drive to Susvara on high impedance output :)
 
Jan 14, 2024 at 11:51 PM Post #45 of 62
You fellows are luring me 😏 towards Donald North Audio Stellaris !! All this 2A3 talk 🤪. [I love Sonett 2]
 

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