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​If you are using the onkyo player ap, there are settings that control the playback rates, and how high they can go. 

Thanks but it's a different problem. I see options to up sample and to set max sample rate but I like to keep the sampling rates at their original. When I use the X1 as a stand alone DAP the display on playback shows:
 
ALAC 44.1/PCM 48
 
When I use OTG to my CDM the same track displays:
 
ALAC 44.1/PCM 44.1
 
When I play Hi Res files both scenarios show:
 
ALAC 96/PCM 96
 
I don't know if Android up samples to 48 or if this is just a cosmetic glitch since I specifically selected "no up sample" option. It could be cosmetic since prior versions of the app showed my AAC files as ALAC but that was fixed a couple versions ago. No biggie, but looking for a definitive answer.

 

[Sonic Defender]

Nathan says in the article the balanced sounds brighter. Rob Watt's says that's usually an artefact of noise causing distortion. Who's to say that one is better, but Nathan likes it for his tastes, and it's more convenient than adding a pigtail cable to the mix to feed a balanced headphone from a SE source. Still, it isn't a true balanced output as Chord has not created a balanced topology in the Mojo. Also, this doesn't really belong in the DP-X1 thread.

I was talking about the AK380CU, at least that is what I thought the OP was talking about, and that was being directly compared against the DP-X1 so in that context it belongs in the thread I think. And come on, if we removed all the OT stuff from all the threads in head-fi most threads would be pretty skinny and we would have a sea of additional threads to navigate. As long as a discussion gets back on topic in short order a little diversion seems fine to me. Anyway, I know what you meant so no worries mate.

 

[Torq]

 
Thanks but it's a different problem. I see options to up sample and to set max sample rate but I like to keep the sampling rates at their original. When I use the X1 as a stand alone DAP the display on playback shows:
 
ALAC 44.1/PCM 48
 
When I use OTG to my CDM the same track displays:
 
ALAC 44.1/PCM 44.1
 
When I play Hi Res files both scenarios show:
 
ALAC 96/PCM 96
 
I don't know if Android up samples to 48 or if this is just a cosmetic glitch since I specifically selected "no up sample" option. It could be cosmetic since prior versions of the app showed my AAC files as ALAC but that was fixed a couple versions ago. No biggie, but looking for a definitive answer.

I believe it's just a bug in the "Music" player app, and it's actually doing 44.1/44.1, but mine did the same thing.
 
Irritating, and a bit sloppy, but something I could have dealt with.  Of course, if it turned out not to be a bug then it'd be a big no-no!
 
...
 
What annoyed me more was the forced up-sampling when using an external DAC and any player other than the Onkyo "Music" player or UAPP.  It up-sampled everything to 192 KHz according to the indicator on my Mojo and I couldn't find any setting that changed that.
 
Not sure which of the built-in Android re-sampling modes it was using, but the "old Android default" was the Linear Interpolator, which is light on processing overhead but doesn't handle non-integer ratios cleanly.  Hopefully it was setup to use the "since with revised coefficients", but who knows.

 

[x RELIC x]

Oh. Just that the article is pretty much all about the Mojo. :blink:

Yeah, Nathan hates the AK380 and the DP-X1 for measured performance when driving a load (at least that's the read I got from his writing).

 

[NPWS]

does anybody here use x-dap link programs in windows laptop?
why I can't use this program?
I'm copying my music through windows explorer

 

[HUM24H]

  does anybody here use x-dap link programs in windows laptop?
why I can't use this program?
I'm copying my music through windows explorer

I tried using the X-Dap Link software but even once I managed to get it going, it was simply a lot easier to drag & drop via Windows Explorer. 
 
I would suggest just sticking with that and leave the software.

 

[NPWS]

  I tried using the X-Dap Link software but even once I managed to get it going, it was simply a lot easier to drag & drop via Windows Explorer. 
 
I would suggest just sticking with that and leave the software.

ok, thanks man

 

[MadDane]

Found a cheap readily avaliable case from Walmart for $17 until more manufacturers jump on board.

FELLOWS X-Large cellphone case model# CRC95340

 

[EagleWings]

 
The same reason I don't want an AK240 or Questyle QP1R ... I've yet to hear an implementation of the CS4398 DAC that I found enjoyable (it might not actually be the DAC chip itself that has results in the units I've heard being sterile and lacking musicality, but it's the only common factor there was).  I'm leaning strongly towards AKM or ESS based solutions for mobile listening.
 
As a result I mentally wrote it off a while ago, though given it's low price, I might re-evalute it as a pure-transport ... IF the UX performance is nice and fluid with portable library of ~10,000 tracks/400 GB.

 
I see. I haven't heard too many DAPs to compare my X3ii with, which again has a CS4398 at its core. But, off late, I am starting to feel that, the X3ii lacks musicality, and I find myself reaching for my iPhone 6. How would you describe the tonality of DP-X1 and Mojo? (I am trying to decide between DP-X1 and Mojo)
 
Thanks for your help!

 

[Torq]

   
I see. I haven't heard too many DAPs to compare my X3ii with, which again has a CS4398 at its core. But, off late, I am starting to feel that, the X3ii lacks musicality, and I find myself reaching for my iPhone 6. How would you describe the tonality of DP-X1 and Mojo? (I am trying to decide between DP-X1 and Mojo)
 
Thanks for your help!

I've not heard the X3ii, so I can't give you a direct comparison there.
 
The Mojo has a very natural tonality.  It gets out of the way and lets you hear the music.  I find it a tiny bit warmer in the bottom end than the DP-X1.  Detail is excellent.  It drove the headphones I tried both with better than the DP-X1.  Musicality is high and it's a treat with female vocals or complex orchestral pieces, and very dynamic with serious electronic/EDM stuff.
 
That said, the DP-X1 is no slouch.  It's superficially more detailed sounding initially (bear in mind my unit was not burned-in), but that wound up translating to being more of a slightly sparkly treble (in an entirely fun way ... I wouldn't describe it as "bright" or anything) than actual detail (with the "Sharp" filter).  Instruments sounded natural, vocals were presented well, pace was good.  It's a very musical listen.
 
Note that my comments on the DP-X1 are limited to using the built-in "Music" application and with it being used as a standalone player.  If you use third-party players, such as TIDAL or Spotify, then I can't recommend the DP-X1 at all due to distortion with low-volume passages of music and during fade in/out of tracks.
 
At the end of the day, if I could only have one, I'd take the Mojo.  It gets hyped a lot, but I think the praise is more than well deserved.
 
If I hadn't run into various issues (the mixed reports on Bluetooth performance seem to indicate that part of my player was faulty) with the DP-X1 I'd have kept it and used it both as a standalone DAP and as a transport for the Mojo.  And in standalone DAP mode I would not have felt like I was missing out on much.  If the issues get resolved I will, without hesitation, purchase another one.
 
Hope that helps.

 

[Taobear]

There has been a brief test of the Onkyo DP-X1 on the German Website AreaDVD from the High End Fair in Munich.
 
Here the direct link to the Test with the Ultrasone Edition 5 used in the Balanced Output - sorry it is only in Germany.
 
http://www.areadvd.de/tests/exklusiv-test-von-der-high-end-onkyo-digital-music-player-dp-x1-mit-kopfhoerer-ultrasone-edition-5/
 
Summary: Unter Miteinbeziehung des Preis-/Leistungsverhältnisses ist der Onkyo DP-X1 der zurzeit beste portable Musikplayer überhaupt
 
Translation: Under inclusion of the Price / Performance Index the Onkyo DP-X1 is currently the best portable Musicplayer.

 

[TheOneInYellow]

Sorry about my absence, been busy.
 
Posted this on Facebook and Twitter earlier this week, but here's my post of my Dignis Design LUNO DP-X1 black leather case with red lining (full unboxing and comparison pics with Onkyo's DPA-PUX1 leather case with yellow lining):
 
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FINALLY my Dignis Design LUNO DP-X1 leather case in black arrived and and it's GORGEOUS!
Unboxing pics below, as well as comparison pics with Onkyo DP-X1 naked and Onkyo DPA-PUX1 leather case.

 

Spoiler: LOTS OF PICS

 

 

 

 

 

I won't be using the plastic screen protector (there are two I think) because I have already applied the superior DPA-GL033 tempered glass screen protector.

However it is a cool, nice useful extra ^^
 

YES a dated certificate of authenticity/warranty card! Love these! <3
 
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- Left: Onkyo DP-X1

- Middle: Dignis Design LUNO DP-X1 leather case black

- Right: Onkyo DPA-PUX1 leather case
 
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I consider this a strange one.

I love the Dignis Design LUNO DP-X1 engraved button on leather design. It's killer!
Yet it is is inferior to the cut-out DPA-PUX1 leather case, or without case DP-X1, ergonomically for button pressing when device is in a pocket 

Will need to get used to this...
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 

 

 

 

This pic is a bit different; the Dignis Design box came with two protection strips for the top of the DP-X1 player. It is a frosty looking strip but it is there to protect the silver metal from jack scratches.
How very thoughtful and a great useful extra!
 

 

[sabloke]

   
I see. I haven't heard too many DAPs to compare my X3ii with, which again has a CS4398 at its core. But, off late, I am starting to feel that, the X3ii lacks musicality, and I find myself reaching for my iPhone 6. How would you describe the tonality of DP-X1 and Mojo? (I am trying to decide between DP-X1 and Mojo)
 
Thanks for your help!

I started with the X3II. Not too bad I thought. Then in December I got the Mojo and found out how average the X3II is in comparison. The best thing to do was to use the X3II as transport for Mojo. That worked well for a few days until I started finding the screen infuriating in daylight. So, enter DP-X1 to take over the transport role. To my surprise, I found the Onkyo decent by itself, especially when using the balanced port. The X3II is a nice piece of aluminium that has been sitting in a drawer since I got my DP-X1 at the end of January.

 

[TheOneInYellow]

  There has been a brief test of the Onkyo DP-X1 on the German Website AreaDVD from the High End Fair in Munich.
 
Here the direct link to the Test with the Ultrasone Edition 5 used in the Balanced Output - sorry it is only in Germany.
 
http://www.areadvd.de/tests/exklusiv-test-von-der-high-end-onkyo-digital-music-player-dp-x1-mit-kopfhoerer-ultrasone-edition-5/
 
Summary: Unter Miteinbeziehung des Preis-/Leistungsverhältnisses ist der Onkyo DP-X1 der zurzeit beste portable Musikplayer überhaupt
 
Translation: Under inclusion of the Price / Performance Index the Onkyo DP-X1 is currently the best portable Musicplayer.

 
Right now, I think the Onkyo DP-X1 occupies the following categories:
 

1. The most fully-featured digital audio player on the market. Read this as THE MOST ADVANCED DAP than any other DAP, BAR NONE
2. The above statement plus AT ANY PRICE
3. First statement plus UNDER £/$1000
4. The most impressive, technically and tested spec wise, DAP on the market.

 
You can mix and match the above, and add a few more.
 
(There will be those who will offer up alternatives, which is fine, but I still believe the above statements to be true at time of this post. I have not compared statements to unreleased DAP's such as iBasso DX200. FiiO X7 also does not count as it runs older Android OS and you need to purchase an add-on module to get balanced audio. Onkyo DP-X1 is self-contained).
 
I do believe that the odd QC issues on jacks should have been looked at more closely, but for the vast majority of users in this market who wish to have a Wi-Fi streaming DAP, this is as best as it can get.
However, my point to the above isn't that one should only consider the DP-X1 (one should ), but that due to the disruptive nature of the DP-X1 with it's features and price point, this should allow greater competition in this specialised niche market.
 
So, well done Onkyo for your introduction; you had a rocky start, but most DAP's do, and I hope you'll continue to improve and create new DAP's into the future.
 
^^

 

[addyg]

Anyone tried Mojo-Kai, the balanced mod of Mojo? DP-X1 balanced out is great but this one seems to taking Mojo to another level:

"The above aside, Ryuzoh’s mod completely ****s all over both Onkyo’s DP-X1 and AK380 under load at each unit’s maximum stable volume. The results are ugly. The DP-X1 outputs 328x more THD and 128x more IMD at maximum stable volumes under the same load; at 4191x the THD and 3441x the IMD, and especially at its asking price and against its ultimate marketing, the AK380 deserves to be thrown from the tallest building, drowned it a year’s worth of rock-concert sludge, and then blue angeled to a fine powder before being sniffed by next-year’s juvenile delinquents."

http://ohm-image.net/data/audio/rmaa-mst-audio-mojo-kai-balanced-24-bit

Interesting.......!