[kp297]

A sublime combo that must be auditioned, DUNU Luna and DMP Z1.

 

[Damz87]

A sublime combo that must be auditioned, DUNU Luna and DMP Z1.

Nice! Would love to try the Luna’s with the DMP. Hopefully one day.

I remember reading a post by DUNU in the Luna thread that even they themselves think the Luna sounds best with a DMP.

 

[MrWalkman]

Don’t be confused, many other SONY have DSEE-HX.

The DMP-Z1 has a unique set of DSEE-HX. It has the AI to do a higher processing steps and apply different methods to the sound rather than WM1Z/A, and other Walkmans, they are optional , you have to pick between percussion, vocal, strings....etc...according to that linked interview, this was a move to preserve battery

False. Please @Whitigir get informed.


Source: https://www.sony.com/en-ae/electronics/walkman/nw-a50-series/specifications

You tripped over the same stone twice. → Oct 12, 2018 flashback...

Thank you, that confirmed what I said. The DSEE-HX are the same name for many devices, on A series and even Xperia smartphones are only the Standard one (still no option). The one on DMP-Z1 is Unique. It utilize more of the AI to analyze and apply different techniques in digital processing toward different types of instruments. Instead of choosing standard, percussion, female vocal, male vocals , string modes (like WM signature series) , you get them all automatically here on Z1, the WM Walkman had to have those as optional due to battery consumption

Can you please confirm the battery consumption with and without DSEE HX on Z1 ? It should consume a lot more when On

Also, I was wrong when I thought DSEE is Oversampling...it isn’t. There is no different Oversampling methods, only different rates. I now think , DSEE is more like using different set of algorithm, noise shaping, digital techniques, and filtering toward different analyzed and categorized frequencies/types by the AI....the Modulator is AKM VelVet Sound.

I wonder if this AI would be used in Sony Next S-Master

Actually, I can confirm that A50 and DMP-Z1 both use the exact same type of Dsee HX AI.

Internally, it's named only Dsee AI.

Sony is gonna release the new WH-1000XM4 headphones with the same feature, Dsee AI.

 

[Whitigir]

How is the aggressiveness of the process ? Are there differences ?

 

[MrWalkman]

How is the aggressiveness of the process ? Are there differences ?

Unless there is something more somewhere, which I didn't notice yet, it should be the same.

This being the same on A55 and DMP-Z1 doesn't sound bad to me. In the end it's about how good the players sound.

 

[Whitigir]

Unless there is something more somewhere, which I didn't notice yet, it should be the same.

This being the same on A55 and DMP-Z1 doesn't sound bad to me. In the end it's about how good the players sound.

Is there a way to up it processing level ? Would be nice. Sony mentioned that they did lower the processing down to optimize batteries usage, and that is why I wonder

 

[MrWalkman]

Is there a way to up it processing level ? Would be nice. Sony mentioned that they did lower the processing down to optimize batteries usage, and that is why I wonder

Unfortunately I can't. You would have to rebuild it from the source, which of course, only Sony has it.

Maybe they just optimized the process so it just won't require as much processing power.

 

[Whitigir]

I love the DMP Z1 EM too much!!! It is everything that DMP is and elevated further in each aspects, with the exception that the vertical height and depth of staging, dynamic are even more expansive, authoritative and punchy !!
Hands down the best possible solution for compact and carriable Player that can drive headphones such as 800S.

I love 800S a lot and I really have no desire to go with others, mine is internally wires upgraded. But non the less, I love it ways too much!!

Also, the DMP can be modified to have a line out using additional 4.4mm Balanced out. But why would I want that when headphones out from 4.4mm can also do the wonderful job at it.

 

[Whitigir]

Anyone is interested in technical specs. The DMP Z1 has been measured to the teeth’s.

Jitters is so low with the clocks that have been utilized even in Walkman.

Quote: suggesting very low random low-frequency jitter. This excellent jitter rejection was repeated with 24-bit data

https://www.stereophile.com/content/sony-dmp-z1-digital-music-player-measurements

Full review and measurements
https://www.stereophile.com/content/sony-dmp-z1-digital-music-player

 

[john1711]

I love the DMP Z1 EM too much!!! It is everything that DMP is and elevated further in each aspects, with the exception that the vertical height and depth of staging, dynamic are even more expansive, authoritative and punchy !!
Hands down the best possible solution for compact and carriable Player that can drive headphones such as 800S.

I love 800S a lot and I really have no desire to go with others, mine is internally wires upgraded. But non the less, I love it ways too much!!

Also, the DMP can be modified to have a line out using additional 4.4mm Balanced out. But why would I want that when headphones out from 4.4mm can also do the wonderful job at it.

What does the EM refer to?

 

[Whitigir]

What does the EM refer to?

Modified versions with internal wires upgraded throughout and upgraded capacitors. EM stands for Extensively Modified. Only the SE end remains with Kimber Kables
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/official-sony-dmp-z1-thread.886122/post-15724037
Here is a picture for General look

 

[john1711]

Thanks for the explanation. Did you perform the modifications yourself and what did it cost?

 

[Whitigir]

Thanks for the explanation. Did you perform the modifications yourself and what did it cost?

Yes, and it costed me however much parts costs were. The labor was very intensive though, and the internal wires/cables was the Most expensive

 

[Whitigir]

I am impressed by the Van Nuys, very thick padding’s all around, can be configured in different ways, and very solid. The paddings are so thick that it feels like even upon dropped on a hard pavement, the player would still survive just fine. Everything is accessible, straps hooks are available for shoulder or back pack strap on

 

[TerryGantnerFamilyWorkout]

I say this in jest but now when I get an email alert from this thread, before even looking at the author of the post, I think - I wonder what Whitigir is showing us now