Official Schiit Vali 2 Thread

[Mr Trev]

Which Dac do you recommend me to use with Valli 2++? . I like guitar and vocals and not much bass
Up to $300
tks

I use a Topping D30. Not exactly the latest and greatest, but it doesn't suck either

 

[LobalWarming]

is it better than schiit bifrost 1 , not 2 ?

For me, yes, yes it is. And within 90% of BF2 in many ways. And much better in the financial delivery portion of the comparison.

 

[bcowen]

I would suggest getting the Modi Multibit 2. You'd be doing yourself quite a favor. It pairs very well with my Vali 2 ++.

+1

IMO, the Modi Multibit is to the DAC world what the Vali 2 is to the amp world: superb sound, and far more than you might expect given the very affordable price.

 

[Quadrangulator]

The 5-star 5760 tube I purchased recently falls out of the socket when I plug headphones into my Vali 2++. The vibrations from the 1/4" inch jack notches appear to cause vibrations that push the tube's right-facing pins out of the socket.

Is this typical?

This does not happen with the stock tube.

 

[bcowen]

The 5-star 5760 tube I purchased recently falls out of the socket when I plug headphones into my Vali 2++. The vibrations from the 1/4" inch jack notches appear to cause vibrations that push the tube's right-facing pins out of the socket.

Is this typical?

This does not happen with the stock tube.

Assume you mean a 5670? No, it’s not typical. Are the pins on the tube bent?

The other possibility is that the Vali is regurgitating the GE tube. Maybe Schiit built some AI into the 2++?

 

[Quadrangulator]

Yes, I meant 5670. Thanks for the quick reply. I removed the 5670, put the stock tube back in, then removed the stock tube and put the 5670 back in, and now the 5670 fits much more firmly. It sits maybe ~90 percent as firm as the stock tube, but now it doesn't pop out when I plug in headphones. Cannot explain. First time dealing with this kind of antiquated (but excellent-sounding) tech.

 

[Ichos]

Yes, I meant 5670. Thanks for the quick reply. I removed the 5670, put the stock tube back in, then removed the stock tube and put the 5670 back in, and now the 5670 fits much more firmly. It sits maybe ~90 percent as firm as the stock tube, but now it doesn't pop out when I plug in headphones. Cannot explain. First time dealing with this kind of antiquated (but excellent-sounding) tech.

I assume that you are using a ECC88 to 5670 adapter?

 

[Quadrangulator]

I assume that you are using a ECC88 to 5670 adapter?

Negative. The 5-Star 5670 drops right into the Vali 2++.

 

[Ichos]

Negative. The 5-Star 5670 drops right into the Vali 2++.

Wrong way of using your tube.
You must put an adapter like this one

 

[Quadrangulator]

Wrong way of using your tube.
You must put an adapter like this one

Why does the 5670 need an adapter of it slots in directly and works?

EDIT: From the Vali 2++ manual: "Vali 2++ uses any 6N3P, 2C51, 5670, or 396Atube types."

 

[Ichos]

Why does the 5670 need an adapter of it slots in directly and works?

Different pin outs.

 

[Quadrangulator]

Different pin outs.

Why would the Vali 2++ manual state the amp supports 5670 if the 5670 requires an adapter?

https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/PDF/vali 2plusplus manual.pdf

 

[Ichos]

 

[Quadrangulator]

Why would I use a 6922 adapter with the Vali 2++, which — according to the manual — does not support 6922 tubes? https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/PDF/vali 2plusplus manual.pdf

The Vali+, on the other hand, supports 6922 but not 5670, according to its manual. https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/PDF/vali 2 plus manual.pdf

 

[AstronomerXI]

Why would the Vali 2++ manual state the amp supports 5670 if the 5670 requires an adapter?

https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/PDF/vali 2plusplus manual.pdf

You are correct. The Vali 2++ takes the 5670's natively, no adapter required. I think the addition of the second "+" indicates a different variant of the Vali series that uses 5670-type tubes. I have one and a little pile of 5670s (including some 1956 GE "*****"'s). I use an adapter to use ECC88-type tubes.