[LFF]

Hmmm....
 
Every single time I have read that a headphone is clear and natural sounding for classical music it's a red flag for BRIGHT.
 
I hope not, as the design is cool but let's hope for the best.

 

[Timodeus]

AKG 701 bright? Dt 660 bright?  

 

[Mad Max]

I think it looks hideous.  Leather earpads with memory foam sounds like win.

 

[catscratch]

Hmmm....

Every single time I have read that a headphone is clear and natural sounding for classical music it's a red flag for BRIGHT.

I hope not, as the design is cool but let's hope for the best.

This. The perception of what's neutral is so skewed that any time I hear something advertised as "neutral" especially for genres where brightness isn't automatically painful it's an instant red flag.

The design reminds me of vintage dynamics. Massive eggshells with head-wrapping pillows. I like it.

 

[rhythmdevils]

x3
 
It's funny how you learn to read impressions like that over time. 
 
I also thought of those big old vintage dynamics looking at the picture. 

 

[GL1TCH3D]

Those look gigantic... definitely not portable...
Maybe a d5000 rival?

 

[mark2410]

What
 
 
 
i dont know what to say

 

[nick n]

hmmm an actual graph but they aren't released yet obviously.
 
Graphs for me are only a generalization and I personally don't obsess over them with all the other factors involved. Would love to see a firsthand set of reviews.

 

[TMRaven]

Such a recession in the lower treble might mean there's some ugly ringing causing cancellation. 

 

[Slickman]

Looks similar to the AH-D600 and ATH-M50. 
 

 

[nick n]

isn't that lower treble area recession corresponding to the recommended DB reduction at ~7khz as mentioned in the "How To Equalize Your Headphones" thread though? IF so I would think it's a good thing and would reduce "problems"
Maybe I am not thinking straight but I like the EQ reduction when I bothered with that sort of thing. These wouldn't need it there unless my thinking is in error.

 

[TMRaven]

Well there's no question that a natural sound for a headphone has lowered db in the upper mids and lower treble, but usually such sharp dips correspond directly with ringing.

 

[nick n]

would that be detectable in their square wave readings they posted there if you hit that selection instead of the FR?

 

[TMRaven]

You can usually see some combing in square waves, but the best way to see if a headphone has any noticeable ringing or not is a waterfall plot.

 

[nick n]

http://www.head-fi.org/t/613600/headroom-debuts-new-spider-moonlight-full-size-headphone-at-the-show-2012-newport