[Bepli]

I have a chance to obtain a Sony PHA-2A as a thrown in through a trade and was wondering if this portable amp w/ 4.4mm balanced will better the sound from my Onkyo DP-X1..? If it will improve it any, I would like to have it...

Never heard the Onkyo but the Sony is like a perfect DAC/Amp for portable use with anything and to my ears it sound great

 

[Wiz33]

I have a chance to obtain a Sony PHA-2A as a thrown in through a trade and was wondering if this portable amp w/ 4.4mm balanced will better the sound from my Onkyo DP-X1..? If it will improve it any, I would like to have it...

If you already have the DP-X1, don't know how useful the Sony will be for you as you would still need a player for portable use and it'll be quite bulky to carry both, not to mention that you'll need some form of adapter or new cables for the 4.4mm balanced output vs the 2.5mm that you're using now. However, if you do not currently have a DAC/AMP for your PC, it does work very well using the Sony MediaGo software set to ASIO for direct digital output to the PHA-2A.

 

[Wyd4]

Just ordered one of these.
Looking forward to hearing it with my z7 and isine20

 

[Dim666]

Does anyone have both the PHA 2A and WM1A? Sound quality wise, is WM1A worth getting over the PHA 2A?

I have both but I think that WM1A is sufficient for IEM's like my Campfire audio Vega. With Z7, this PHA 2-A makes the sound better for this headphone really.

 

[Wiz33]

Anyone in the US with the 2A and MMCX headphones and want to try balanced output should check this out on Amazon. Korean dealer is selling the MUC-M12SB1 4.4mm Kimber balanced cable at the price of US$139 with Amazon prime shipping. The MUC-M12SB1 is currently priced at over 22,000 yen (US$200) in Japan while the new non-kimber MUC-M12NB1 is priced at 15,000 yen (US$135). Now I think it's a mistake and they are actually selling the NB1 but if that's the case, you can always return it at their expense.

Just received the package and to my surprise, it is the MUC-M12SB1 which is a steal at that price. It is a Korean market package as seen below:

http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/Wiz13688/media/IMG_3242_zpsz1ddpxun.jpg.html

 

[adalberto vela]

Has anybody compared this to the PHA-3..? Would love to hear some comparisons..

 

[Witcher]

Has anybody compared this to the PHA-3..? Would love to hear some comparisons..

Yes, when I was looking for an alternative to my mojo, I did look at all 3 PHA models, from 1A, 2A, and 3.

I found that the 1A and 2A have similar characteristics, and the 3 is a different animal. To my ears, I couldn't but help think that the 3 was still superior by far. I was testing all 3 with my own Z5, and the shop's Z7 and Z1R then. The 1A and 2A had beautiful broad midranges, but didn't have the high end treble extension I was looking for, nor did they have the sub bass extension I wanted. The 3, on the other hand, had both extremes, but has a leaner midrange which isn't as pronounced as the other 2. The 3 also had a wider soundstage on the Z5 as compared to the other 2.

I would say... the PHA 1A and 2A are more suited for Jazz and vocals, while the PHA3 is more suited for rock, metal, and instrumentals.

All 3 were tested using Sony's own demo WM1A as a source. In the end I left the shop with the PHA3, which I felt suited the Z1R and the Z5 better. I don't own the Z7 myself, so I'm not able to comment much on that.

So here's the final set:

 

[adalberto vela]

Yeah, that's what I figured...I love to look of the PHA-2A and the 4.4mm balance option, but probably going to go with the PHA-3, as I'll also be using it with Z1R... I sampled the PHA-3 at a local best buy and absolutely loved the sound, and this was with the Z...An amazon review mentioned the PHA-2A was better, but I didn't buy into it much, as he provided no details really..I do realize every ear is different, but still..Thanks for the feedback

 

[Wiz33]

Yeah, that's what I figured...I love to look of the PHA-2A and the 4.4mm balance option, but probably going to go with the PHA-3, as I'll also be using it with Z1R... I sampled the PHA-3 at a local best buy and absolutely loved the sound, and this was with the Z...An amazon review mentioned the PHA-2A was better, but I didn't buy into it much, as he provided no details really..I do realize every ear is different, but still..Thanks for the feedback

Or just hold off and wait. Now that we got the 1A and 2A and Sony seems to be set on the 4.4mm for the future (the forthcoming ZX300 will also use 4.4mm). I'm pretty sure that a 3A is not too far off in the future. That said, I did borrow a 3 from a friend before I bought the 2A and I felt that it colors the sound (bass and highs) (I know every DAC does, but it seems to have gone a bit overboard on the 3). I found the 2A much more neutral (not flat by not to the 3's extreme) when compared to my pink noise EQ'ed KEFs I used at home.

 

[adalberto vela]

Yeah, I thought about that but figured a used PHA-3 for around $500 would do for now..I had a friend describe the PHA-3 as being beefier than the PHA-2A...?

 

[Wiz33]

Yeah, I thought about that but figured a used PHA-3 for around $500 would do for now..I had a friend describe the PHA-3 as being beefier than the PHA-2A...?

Guess it also depends on if you plan on going balanced and have or about to invested in a good set of balanced cable. I wasn't about to spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of 2.5mm cable that Sony is phasing out and no one else is using and I was looking at new not used. They do sound different but I would suggest that Witcher should try 2A balanced before saying the 3 have a wider soundstage as the 2A have a larger soundstage running balanced than the 3 running SE. The bass on the 3 is heavier but not any lower and if there was more extension in the high, it's happening outside my hearing range (I'm over 50). Also, the mid on the Z5 is already recessed and would feel more so on the 3. I don't want that. The only reason I just invested in the 4.4 Kimber balance is that most have agree that the recessed mid was brought a bit more forward using the Kimber.

 

[hangman2123]

The kimber is definitely worth it.

 

[adalberto vela]

Guess it also depends on if you plan on going balanced and have or about to invested in a good set of balanced cable. I wasn't about to spend a couple hundred bucks on a set of 2.5mm cable that Sony is phasing out and no one else is using and I was looking at new not used. They do sound different but I would suggest that Witcher should try 2A balanced before saying the 3 have a wider soundstage as the 2A have a larger soundstage running balanced than the 3 running SE. The bass on the 3 is heavier but not any lower and if there was more extension in the high, it's happening outside my hearing range (I'm over 50). Also, the mid on the Z5 is already recessed and would feel more so on the 3. I don't want that. The only reason I just invested in the 4.4 Kimber balance is that most have agree that the recessed mid was brought a bit more using the Kimber.

What about Soundstage on the PHA-3 via Balanced..?

 

[Wiz33]

What about Soundstage on the PHA-3 via Balanced..?

Only had the stock Z5 balance cable and the sound stage is no bigger than the 2A balanced.

 

[Witcher]

Or just hold off and wait. Now that we got the 1A and 2A and Sony seems to be set on the 4.4mm for the future (the forthcoming ZX300 will also use 4.4mm). I'm pretty sure that a 3A is not too far off in the future. That said, I did borrow a 3 from a friend before I bought the 2A and I felt that it colors the sound (bass and highs) (I know every DAC does, but it seems to have gone a bit overboard on the 3). I found the 2A much more neutral (not flat by not to the 3's extreme) when compared to my pink noise EQ'ed KEFs I used at home.

Considering I JUST bought the PHA3, I'm dreading an inevitable upcoming release of the 3A. lol.