[Hunki Chunki]

Yes, this is just a female 4.4mm TRRRS jack. It will be used on all of our adapter cables: https://www.moon-audio.com/audio-cables/headphones/adapters.html
Connectors are in route to us and we will be adding to all adapter cable pages once they arrive.

Awesome.. will wait for this!

 

[alphanumerix1]

interested in the 4.4 to dual 3 pin xlr is that on the site?

 

[drubrew]

The Female 4.4mm are now in stock!!

Adapter cables are here:
https://www.moon-audio.com/moon-audio-silver-dragon-v3-extension-adapter-cable.html
https://www.moon-audio.com/black-dragon-extension-adapter-cable-v2.html
https://www.moon-audio.com/blue-dragon-extension-adapter-cable-v3.html

 

[Sybase]

This looks promising. I would definitely buy one of these if there was a right angle 4.4mm connector. The pentaconn is for portable Sony players like the ZX300 and WM1Z, so why not have a right angle jack?

 

[drubrew]

We have not found a right angle that has the proper strain relief to protect the cable exit point. So far all the ones we have examined will be problematic. We find that with right angles most people then bend the wire at 90 degrees which will cause issues. Thus why I always use straight. Works better especially when putting in your pocket.

 

[djricekcn]

correct me if i'm wrong but is this a 4.4 one one end while the other end is...you need to recable it yourself? or is it some sort of an adapter. i.e. 2.5 to 4.4

 

[adydula]

So what do all the folks who have amps with the large 4 pin output jack do?
Are we forced to by new cables?

Many amp vendors are still making and selling amps with the 4 pin XLR and not the 4.4mm balanced XLR?

This might be a cable makers dream in selling new cables with the 4.4mm balanced connectors?

Is there a good adapter to go from a 4.4mm balanced cable to the "old" defunct 4 pin XLR Male?

Alex

 

[drubrew]

Since there is no industry standard I don't see any of the other formats disappearing anytime soon. Adapter cables can be had here: https://www.moon-audio.com/dragon-audio-cables/adaptercables.html
We can convert to just about any connection possible.

 

[adydula]

Thanks for the link....is there a already made adapter that would fit the included stock cable that Senn HD800s come with (4.4mm) that would allow connection to an existing
4 pin large XLR? ie 4.4 mm female to 4 pin XLR male?

If there is a link or approx how much would one cost to make?

Thanks
Alex

 

[drubrew]

We only have cable adapters. No 4 pin XLR all in one adapters that I know of yet with eh 4.4mm as a female option.

 

[adydula]

We only have cable adapters. No 4 pin XLR all in one adapters that I know off yet.

Problem solved:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082Y6XSSW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$23...got it and its good quality and worked with the 4.4mm balanced for the HD800s and mated very well.

 

[EndAllBeAll]

The problem with the 2.5mm and 3.5mm TRRS connections is that there is no grounding connection. Thus when you try to tie a balanced output from a portable DC powered device to an AC based home piece where there is a true earth ground associated with it, there can be a ground loop issue.

This can introduce hum into the signal path thus the reason Astell & Kern developed their dual connector (3.5mm and 2.5mm) block for connecting their portable players to home systems. The 3.5mm acts as the ground connection. The 4.4mm TRRRS is a brilliant connection choice in my opinion as it is smaller than 1/4", 4 pin XLR or dual 3 pin XLRs. I hope more companies adopt it. It is more robust than the 3.5mm and 2.5mm. The tabs in the 4.4mm female jack are also large enough to help retain a good contact force over the male plug. The 2.5mm is terrible at this and even 3.5mm jacks get loose over time.

I hope this helps clarify it a bit more. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Thank You.

Drew Baird, P.E., CEO
Moon Audio

106 Brady Court
Cary, NC 27511
919-649-5018
drew@moon-audio.com

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So the extra conductor has no use in headphones? Other then perhaps mic in future, or do you require 6 conductors for balanced with mic.

 

[drubrew]

So the extra conductor has no use in headphones? Other then perhaps mic in future, or do you require 6 conductors for balanced with mic.

The extra tab for grounding has no use for headphone,s but does have a use when connecting a balanced line output from a Dap to your home system. This will ground the Dap to the system and earth, thus preventing possible ground loops and that nasty hum.

 

[Muataz]

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There is two Type one Brass and other one is Pure Copper OFC. This one is Brass so do you have a OFC version ?

 

[adydula]

Totally disagree here...we dont need another form factor, the existing 3 and 4 pin jacks and connectors that have been around for YEARS are just fine.
Strong, easy to build with.....
So someone comes out with a smaller balanced connector and we all have to jump to it??
I dont think so.
I am not a lemming and will not jump on this bandwagon...so folks are forced into buying new adapters and cables....its mad enough already!
This connector seems to be fine for smaller devices like DAPS etc...
But for us folks that have desktop amps, dacs this is NOT needed.
No technical reason for it over the existing 3 and 4 pin XLR stuff we have.

Amazing how folks just accept stuff .....nope, not here...not going to happen!

Alex