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Jul 9, 2018 at 7:25 AM Post #46 of 95
tiddlywinks said:
FYI new firmware on the Cowon Korean site Ver 1.10 released 2018-07-09 13:41:37
Using Microsoft Translator get the following translation of fixes:

-The DSD file support (Native DSD) *
-Adjust the playback speed additional features
-Hearing protection settings (settings/system/hearing protection) **
-Support for image file cover.png albums
-Browser search performance improvements
-FLAC file compatibility improvements
-AAC playback improvements
-User interface (UI) changes
-' Return ' default settings: volume value is initialized to
* DSF/DFF/SACD DSD 64/128 of the file format support, and
Native DSD mode, when you play the DSD JetEffect do not apply.
** Hearing protection when removing the earphones volume for reset operation is set, the function
' entry into the European Union is set to "only if it is outside the hearing protection.

Haven't used it myself as don't have a V
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Ahh snap! I just downloaded this and have been trying it out, was about to post something on here too :wink:

I don't have any DSD files but downloaded a sample from https://www.oppodigital.com/hra/dsd-by-davidelias.aspx and can confirm it works. JetEffect settings aren't applied to DSD playback, and a little DSD icon appears at the top of the screen (shown in photo below).

The new firmware also has an additional UI skin which looks like the skin on the larger screen Plenue players - largely black with highlighted orange menu items. I tried to take a photo of the transition but it hasn't come out so well - instead of the last-used menu item being highlighted all orange it's kind of a pixellated orange backing (since I'm guessing the screen can't handle the all-orange highlight of the larger screen models) - it's just visible on the 'Dawn of Ashes' line on the photo.

Interesting they added the playback speed support - I don't think I've seen this on any other Plenue models. It was on my old J3 (and I think the S9 too). I found it handy as I played drums and would use it to slow down play and figure out what someone was playing for a drum line/fill.
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Jul 11, 2018 at 4:20 PM Post #49 of 95
Jul 11, 2018 at 4:29 PM Post #50 of 95
lreilly said:
Great review. I look forward to your comparison with the ZX300! Do you have any sort of ETA from Joybuy? I have concerns about the bass having read through the thread but it definitely beats the Plenue V when it comes to storage capacity.
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Yeah I sent them an email yesterday asking about where the ZX300 might be. Ordered on 25 May with an estimate of 30-40 days shipping. First time I’ve bought from Joybuy but not too worried yet as people here on head-fi report good experiences with them.
 
Jul 14, 2018 at 8:21 PM Post #51 of 95
Music Enthusiast said:
Thank you so much 'someyoungguy' for the detailed response :). That's very helpful and much appreciated.

I wonder if I could trouble you with just 2 more queries...

1) Does the Plenue V have perfect/seamless gapless handling on lossless formats such as FLAC/ALAC/APE and on lossy MP3/AAC?
2) Can the Plenue V decode and split up cue files into separate playable tracks?

Hope you can help.

Thanks
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Hi Music Enthusiast,

Finally got around to testing out CUE files. Sorry it took a while I'd never used them before and had to read up on how they work.

I found an mp3 file I have, burnt from a CD, which has a hidden track and created a CUE file so it would appear as two tracks - the main song and hidden track. It works in Foobar - I drag it into the player window and two files come up, with their track lengths and both play fine. So I loaded the same file on the Plenue V (and Plenue R which I have handy), in the same folder as the mp3 file, but I don't get the CUE file working on either player.

So, either the CUE files aren't supported on the Plenues or I'm not doing it right.
 
Jul 14, 2018 at 9:49 PM Post #52 of 95
I just saw on the Cowon website and they've updated the V info with the upgrades in the 1.10 firmware release - the product info now includes the support for DSD and higher res file types, and the images in the 'JetEffect 5.0' on the overview page and 'Sensual graphic interface' on the Design page now show the new UI theme.
 
Jul 16, 2018 at 2:49 PM Post #53 of 95
someyoungguy said:
Hi Music Enthusiast,

Finally got around to testing out CUE files. Sorry it took a while I'd never used them before and had to read up on how they work.

I found an mp3 file I have, burnt from a CD, which has a hidden track and created a CUE file so it would appear as two tracks - the main song and hidden track. It works in Foobar - I drag it into the player window and two files come up, with their track lengths and both play fine. So I loaded the same file on the Plenue V (and Plenue R which I have handy), in the same folder as the mp3 file, but I don't get the CUE file working on either player.

So, either the CUE files aren't supported on the Plenues or I'm not doing it right.
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Hi someyounguy, thank you so much for taking the time to test this.
 
Jul 27, 2018 at 4:45 PM Post #55 of 95
maira said:
Has the Sony arrived?
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No, they said to get in touch if it hadn’t arrived by the 26th July, so looks like I’ll be asking for a refund. Tracking shows it leaving Belgium early June, then nothing. Haven’t had something go missing in the post for a long time.

I’m not sure what I’ll do now - whether I’ll order a ZX300 from somewhere else or not.
 
Jul 28, 2018 at 7:36 AM Post #56 of 95
someyoungguy said:
No, they said to get in touch if it hadn’t arrived by the 26th July
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Too bad. A comparison would have been great, I have listened to the zx300 a few days ago and found it a bit dark sounding with too much Bass (kick drum). Also i missed a bit of sparkle. Maybe its because of the Class D amp....

Good luck for your refund!
 
Aug 20, 2018 at 9:02 PM Post #60 of 95
Love Music said:
What is the difference between the plenue j and the v ? They seem to have similar pricing and was released around the same time . Which one has better sq ?
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On paper the V has better specs:
Signal to noise ratio: 126 dB for V, 123 dB for J
Stereo crosstalk: -124 dB for V, -105 dB for J
Total harmonic distortion: 0.0004% for V, 0.003% for J
Output voltage: 1.7 Vrms for V, 1.0 Vrms for J
The V also has DSD support if you want that (although there’s not much music available in DSD yet)

With anything in this hobby it’s quite subjective as to which is better, depending on your tastes and the sound signature you want. I’ve never tried the J but the DAC chip and specs are exactly the same as the D. I used to have a D a few years ago, and can’t provide a direct A-B comparison, but from memory the D had a slightly smooth, warm sound, quite characteristic of the Wolfson DAC chip (WM8998 from memory).

The V has the best detail retrieval I’ve heard out of a DAP (previously owned X3 2nd gen, DX80, DX90, and Plenue M, P1, R and D). It’s very immersive and controlled on complex passages. The only downside I’ve come across is the treble can tend towards the hot side, so could be a bit harsh depending on JetEffect setting, recording and IEM/headphone pairing. I think of the V as like a live performance - engaging and exciting, but might end up a bit harsh depending on the performance. On paper the Vs specs are right up near the P2 and S in terms of SNR, THD etc.

Personally I’m a huge fan of what the V can deliver for the price and love the sound signature. I do think the J has a more svelte, dapper look to it and you can see in the D forum people love the sound (which I’m assuming is exactly the same on the J). The V does have 70% more output power, so depending on the headphones/IEMs you’re intending on using with it, that is something to keep in mind.

@Tz2000 sorry I’ve never heard the Supermini so can’t comment
 
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