New Beyerdynamic T5p 2nd generation

[HiFiGuy528]

Mine might get delivered today! akipping out on the gym this morning as I don't want to risk missing the truck lol. I'm sure you guys know how it is

 
Fingers crossed!

 

[moriez]

  @moriez We also sell Fostex TH900. I say how I feel. You don't have to listen to me. Trust your own ears...

 
I appreciate your opinion of an ''exceptional pairing''. At the same time you're in my eyes promoting equipment Woo happens to be selling. Not done imo.

 

[HiFiGuy528]

@moriez You missed the reference in my response. Please take a look at the screen shot as well. 

 

 

[DoctaCosmos]

Thanks for the recommendation of the Lehmann amp after our talk on the phone Hifiguy. I'll be sure to check it out. I'm a little worried about its low output though and the fact that the only place to get one is through an eBay international seller. If For some reason I end up not liking it then I'd probably be out a $1000 as its not exactly an amp that is widely talked about here on headfi. Not saying that it's out of the equation just my brain doing the math.

 

[jpimentelc]

Guys I am seriously considering returning the T5P2s and going back to the T5p1s.
 
Some reasons:
 
1. They are so warm that they fill the music with very annoying bright elements.  You can listen to these annoying elements even in relatively easy songs to resolve. 
 
2. The bass tends to distortion.  Try for example Hotline bling.
 
3. The vocals are more veiled that in the previous model.  The previous model was unbeatable for female vocals. They sounded just silky smooth.
 
4. There are not so many details in the highs.  There are more annoying bright elements, but not the kind of the detail that was present in the T5p1s.  While I can definitely hear more of the rest of the music in the new generation, the others were so smoothly perfect to listen.
 
 
It is a pity because I do like the new cable and the more presence of bass, but I don't think I can live with this sound signature in a €900 headphones. They sound like those treble heavy Ultrasones that I tried the other day.
 
 
Is anyone experiencing something similar?  The more I listen the to T52ps the more disappointed I get.    I actually wish someone/something could talk me out of it otherwise I'll go return them tomorrow.
 
Regards,

 

[Arniesb]

Guys I am seriously considering returning the T5P2s and going back to the T5p1s.

Some reasons:

1. They are so warm that they fill the music with very annoying bright elements.  You can listen to these annoying elements even in relatively easy songs to resolve. 

2. The bass tends to distortion.  Try for example Hotline bling.

3. The vocals are more veiled that in the previous model.  The previous model was unbeatable for female vocals. They sounded just silky smooth.

4. There are not so many details in the highs.  There are more annoying bright elements, but not the kind of the detail that was present in the T5p1s.  While I can definitely hear more of the rest of the music in the new generation, the others were so smoothly perfect to listen.


It is a pity because I do like the new cable and the more presence of bass, but I don't think I can live with this sound signature in a €900 headphones. They sound like those treble heavy Ultrasones that I tried the other day.


Is anyone experiencing something similar?  The more I listen the to T52ps the more disappointed I get.    I actually wish someone/something could talk me out of it otherwise I'll go return them tomorrow.

Regards,

I feel you bro. When i tried first T5p i really liked and absolutely loved first T1, but i have feared if it ever broke they would give me New T1, because Old T1 would be out of production... I personally don't like their new tuning, talking about high mids to low treble transition. With old T1 i felt mids was good from top to bottom, but now lower mids is forward and suddenly boom!!! Upper mids sound subpar in comparison. Also i missed a lot of air and energy and speed. Ofcourse majority of Audiophiles like Smooth sounding headphones, so Beyerdynamic tuned it for majority. So now more people can like it. I don't heard new T5, but i think my coment would be the same as yours given the change of sound.

 

[plakat]

  Guys I am seriously considering returning the T5P2s and going back to the T5p1s.
 
Some reasons:
 
1. They are so warm that they fill the music with very annoying bright elements.  You can listen to these annoying elements even in relatively easy songs to resolve. 
 
2. The bass tends to distortion.  Try for example Hotline bling.
 
3. The vocals are more veiled that in the previous model.  The previous model was unbeatable for female vocals. They sounded just silky smooth.
 
4. There are not so many details in the highs.  There are more annoying bright elements, but not the kind of the detail that was present in the T5p1s.  While I can definitely hear more of the rest of the music in the new generation, the others were so smoothly perfect to listen.
 
 
It is a pity because I do like the new cable and the more presence of bass, but I don't think I can live with this sound signature in a €900 headphones. They sound like those treble heavy Ultrasones that I tried the other day.
 
 
Is anyone experiencing something similar?  The more I listen the to T52ps the more disappointed I get.    I actually wish someone/something could talk me out of it otherwise I'll go return them tomorrow.
 
Regards,

There are some things I don't get in your description (like 'so warm (...) bright elements' or bass distortion or the comparison to Ultrasones), but everyones taste is different. Why not just keep the old model and send the new one back or resell them? I don't think convincing someone is the right way to go...

 

[Arniesb]

There are some things I don't get in your description (like 'so warm (...) bright elements' or bass distortion or the comparison to Ultrasones), but everyones taste is different. Why not just keep the old model and send the new one back or resell them? I don't think convincing someone is the right way to go...

I also don't understand This. In my experience T1 2nd sounded ALWAYS WARM and a bit bright at the same time. First T1 had contrast. It was in one song bright in other warm in other neutral. I liked different character for different genre, but in my opinion new tuning take that away...

 

[jpimentelc]

I can't use those terms accurately Plakat. I guess my view is that the sound of the new T5p2s doesn't sound to me like a balanced sound. My listening experience so far is that in comparison to the first model, the treble is harsh, voices sound a bit more veiled and less detailed, reverb seems off the charts and the bass is imprecise and harsh sounding.   I wonder if anyone who has compared the two of them can share his/her views on this. I wonder what DoctaCosmos' view is, for example.

 

[DoctaCosmos]

Unfortunatrly I can't comment on the sound yet as mine haven't been delivered. Sorry. What gear are you using to drive your t5p jpimentelc

 

[jpimentelc]

Unfortunatrly I can't comment on the sound yet as mine haven't been delivered. Sorry. What gear are you using to drive your t5p jpimentelc

I am using no amps since I bought these as my travel headphones.  Therefore I have been switching them between an iPad Pro, and iPhone 6 and my Macbook Pro 15 inch. That was the gear I used with my previous T5p1 and I was reaching incredible levels of smooth musical bliss.

 

[plakat]

I also don't understand This. In my experience T1 2nd sounded ALWAYS WARM and a bit bright at the same time. First T1 had contrast. It was in one song bright in other warm in other neutral. I liked different character for different genre, but in my opinion new tuning take that away...

 
Thats about my view on the T1 as well, I still prefer the old model. Most interestingly though the T1.2 was the fist model that seemed to improve with a balanced connection.
 

  I can't use those terms accurately Plakat. I guess my view is that the sound of the new T5p2s doesn't sound to me like a balanced sound. My listening experience so far is that in comparison to the first model, the treble is harsh, voices sound a bit more veiled and less detailed, reverb seems off the charts and the bass is imprecise and harsh sounding.   I wonder if anyone who has compared the two of them can share his/her views on this. I wonder what DoctaCosmos' view is, for example.

 
No problem (there's a glossary of describing sound somewhere around here btw.). I think I did not misunderstand what you were trying to say overall, but it does not match my own experience. I did own the original model as well, but sold it several weeks before I got the new one. Therefore I can't compare them in detail... sonic memory is very unreliable. The overall character is still present though.
 

 
I am using no amps since I bought these as my travel headphones.  Therefore I have been switching them between an iPad Pro, and iPhone 6 and my Macbook Pro 15 inch. That was the gear I used with my previous T5p1 and I was reaching incredible levels of smooth musical bliss.

 
While I do think the old T5p was exceptionally well suited to female voices (I sold it to a lover of such pieces and have to say that testing it with his music was a very nice thing to do), I'd certainly not call it smoother than the new version. But still: I don't want to convince you to like the new model... as you can read above I, for one, still like the old T1 better than the new version (of the T1 that is), contrary to most other people who like the new model better. So there's nothing wrong with having preferences and deciding against a headphone.

 

[batracom]

  Guys I am seriously considering returning the T5P2s and going back to the T5p1s.
 
Some reasons:
 
1. They are so warm that they fill the music with very annoying bright elements.  You can listen to these annoying elements even in relatively easy songs to resolve. 
 
2. The bass tends to distortion.  Try for example Hotline bling.
 
3. The vocals are more veiled that in the previous model.  The previous model was unbeatable for female vocals. They sounded just silky smooth.
 
4. There are not so many details in the highs.  There are more annoying bright elements, but not the kind of the detail that was present in the T5p1s.  While I can definitely hear more of the rest of the music in the new generation, the others were so smoothly perfect to listen.
 
 

 
Have you tried the AKT5p? That's supposed to have a more balanced sound, according to reviews. Perhaps others can chip in on this too...

 

[ph58]

   
Thats about my view on the T1 as well, I still prefer the old model. Most interestingly though the T1.2 was the fist model that seemed to improve with a balanced connection.
 
 
No problem (there's a glossary of describing sound somewhere around here btw.). I think I did not misunderstand what you were trying to say overall, but it does not match my own experience. I did own the original model as well, but sold it several weeks before I got the new one. Therefore I can't compare them in detail... sonic memory is very unreliable. The overall character is still present though.
 
 
While I do think the old T5p was exceptionally well suited to female voices (I sold it to a lover of such pieces and have to say that testing it with his music was a very nice thing to do), I'd certainly not call it smoother than the new version. But still: I don't want to convince you to like the new model... as you can read above I, for one, still like the old T1 better than the new version (of the T1 that is), contrary to most other people who like the new model better. So there's nothing wrong with having preferences and deciding against a headphone.

Completely agree with you , i use to have the original T5P , and now the new one , i prefer this one , i don't find distortion on bass nor annoying harsh treble , on the contrary it is smoother then the original . Everyone have his own taste and ears . For me it is a step up to the old one , for some others a pity . Just trust your ears ! Thank you

 

[DoctaCosmos]

Hey guys I have a question and it might not be the right thread but you guys seem pretty cool so I'm taking my chances lol. I just bought an iPad and plan on using Spotify and tidal. I have an external dac and amp but not sure if the iPad will read the dac when I get the ca,era connector. What would be the best way to stream the music to my setup without having to have another display setup. I just want my rig next me and only have to pick up my iPad and press play.