[purrin]

Indeed, the rest of the chain does matter in alleviating fatigue. Tonal balance is part of it. Lack of distortion, especially up high is another.

 

[FrenchChemist]

 
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Paradox are ever so slightly dark or neutral depending upon upstream gear. Maybe it's best to lay things out things comparatively rather than arguing what's neutral or not ... yet again. Then each of one of you can decide which one sounds most neutral or natural or whatever according to your own preferences.
 
 

 DARKER<--------------------------------------->BRIGHTER

 LCD3 < SR007 < Paradox ~ UERM < SR009 < HD800(unmodded)

 
 
 
or whatever tickles your fancy if you like absolutes (for illustration purposes only, not necessarily how I personally hear things):
 

 NEUTRAL<----------BRIGHT-------------->PAINFULLY BRIGHT

 LCD3 < SR007 < Paradox ~ UERM < SR009 < HD800(unmodded)

 
 
Google should make a universal translator so when JaMi says "neutral" it gets translated to "dark" in French.

 

LOL! JaMi happens to speak French (we just talked privately) and even lived in the same city as I for a while

. I guess we can blame it on the fact that he currently lives in the USA

(I did too but it was some 15+ years ago...). Seriously, we're cool on the subject and I am still in shock that I find my LCD-3 too dark while 5 months ago I was perfectly happy with my LCD-2 rev1

. Unless I had an exceptional pair, it tells me a lot about how the dark/bright chart is dependent on many factors, personal relative experience included...

 

[ardilla]

 
The most important part of perceived audio quality is what is between your ears, not whats on them.. 
 
 
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........it tells me a lot about how the dark/bright chart is dependent on many factors, personal relative experience included...

 
 

 

[Anaxilus]

 
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The most important part of perceived audio quality is what is between your ears, not whats on them.. 

That will only be as important as one allows it to be or is simply unaware.

 

[Grev]

The LCD-3 seems to follow the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

 

[sphinxvc]

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I found the 007 more fatiguing than hd650, ...

 
How?

 

[ardilla]

Just did.. Sound sig is very different on them.  
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How?

 
 

 

[MuppetFace]

Personally I find the SR-007mk1 to be one of the least fatiguing headphones I've ever experienced.

 

[ardilla]

People kept telling me so, but it didn't work out that way for me. 
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Personally I find the SR-007mk1 to be one of the least fatiguing headphones I've ever experienced.

 
 

 

[Audiocrack]

Hmm....Just a question, I just got mine and when i put them on, I hear a sound like a crumpled plastic bag or something. The sound comes the cups a pushed against my head, which would cause a slight amount of air pressure i suppose...Just sounds strange...

 

[ardilla]

I sometimes can hear is some resonnance from the cables tangling. Not like a plastic bag though, more like a slight deep rumbling. The stax 007 has the same thing. It's a vacuum effect /sealed membrane issue I think. 

 

[sphinxvc]

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People kept telling me so, but it didn't work out that way for me. 

 
Odd.  Like MF, fatiguing is the last word I'd use for the MKI too.  It's also practically weightless, and I'm surprised you found the HD650s more comfortable in your notes.
 
 

 

[Radio_head]

Some people I know find detail fatiguing when casually listening to music.  Perhaps that is where "fatigue" comes in with the 007mk1...

 

[ardilla]

The 007 is appr 370 grams, the HD650 260 grams - so the Senns are the most weightless. I found the lacking ability for the cups to swivel an issue. The HD650 clamp (which easily is a non issue after the standard anti clamp procedure) is the only uncomfortable issue with it. 
 
My reason for posting the notes you refer to is to illustrate that something as well recommended (faigue-wise) as the 007 isn't necessarily ideal for all.
 
But by all means - it's a he** of a headphone, and I would really like to listen to it on something like the Blue Hawaii or Woo WES. 
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Odd.  Like MF, fatiguing is the last word I'd use for the MKI too.  It's also practically weightless, and I'm surprised you found the HD650s more comfortable in your notes.
 
 

 
 

 

[Audiocrack]

I sometimes can hear is some resonnance from the cables tangling. Not like a plastic bag though, more like a slight deep rumbling. The stax 007 has the same thing. It's a vacuum effect /sealed membrane issue I think. 

Hmm, ok - its definitely not cable noise, but rather the vacuum thing...It just seems a bit worrying to me if a membrane the thickness of..well..thin air pretty much, makes a sound like that. Seems sort of unhealthy.