[temporaryname]

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So you think lcd3 is too expensive and has a "stupidly high profit"? Believe me in the hifi business, of all components of a system, the headphone, even as expensive as lcd3 is the least profitable equipment. I think the lcd3 is expensive, but it worth every penny I paid for. Welcome to hifi world.

 
You raise a good point. I was comparing it to other headphones, not amps, dacs or speakers or the like. Juxtaposed against other headphones, I think my opinion that it has a high profit margin is justified, but remember it's only my opinion and not backed with hard evidence.
I'm glad you think it's worth the whole amount because I'm planning to get one myself down the line.

I was only lamenting the potential positive side effects on the industry if such a world class headphone was priced much more competitively, like the LCD-2 and HE-500. One can still dream...
 
And apologies for the long post. I, unfortunately, enjoy writing but rarely post, meaning I can ramble and ramble...

 

[rudi0504]

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This is definitely one of the biggest improvements over the LCD-2s. I'm hearing sound staging in my rig that competes with my T1s (and slightly better than my now sold HE-6s). I thought this was a limitation of orthos, but I guess not.
 

I am 100 % agreed with you Peter , below are my best Headphone list :
 
Source : Stello CD Player CDA 500
             Imac 27  with CDA 500 as stand alone DAC
 
Head Amp : Pre Amp T + A   P 10.2
 
1. LCD 3
2. LCD 2 Rev 2
3. HD 800 recable with Whiplash Custom
4. T1
5. ED 8 Ruthenium
6 HD 650
7. ATH W 1000 X
8. ATH 1000 PRM
9. HD 580
10. ATH ES 10 
11. Alessansdro Grado MS 2 i new badge
12 Beyerdynamic DT 1350
 

 

[sphinxvc]

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This is definitely one of the biggest improvements over the LCD-2s. I'm hearing sound staging in my rig that competes with my T1s (and slightly better than my now sold HE-6s). I thought this was a limitation of orthos, but I guess not.

The limitation is probably weight.  

 

[maverickronin]

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The limitation is probably weight.  

All those magnets sure are heavy...
 
Making them electromagnets and adding what amounts to an energizer box would be interesting.
 
Are there any other kinds of magnets which are lighter but reasonably strong?

 

[goofyvic]

All those magnets sure are heavy...
 
Making them electromagnets and adding what amounts to an energizer box would be interesting.
 
Are there any other kinds of magnets which are lighter but reasonably strong?

Won't that make them become electrostats headphones?

 

[Anaxilus]

No, Stats use electric current to excite the diaphragm not magnets.
 
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question713.htm
 
Orthos will still be using magnets to motivate the diaphragm.

 

[rhythmdevils]

The limitation is probably weight.  

How does weight limit soundstage? I dont think more magnets = bigger soundstage otherwise the audezes would have huge soundstage which they dont...

 

[Maxvla]

I think he means people don't want bricks on their heads.

 

[Anaxilus]

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I think he means people don't want bricks on their heads.

That's just someone's subjective opinion.  

 

 

[rhythmdevils]

Yeah, I personally think it's a great way to tone my neck muscles for the ladies.  But how does that relate to soundstage?  Maybe I'm dense tonight I don't know.

 

[Maxvla]

More magnetism = greater control = better soundstage? Dunno.

 

[dagothur]

The magnetic field affects your brain to believe the soundstage is better than it really is.

 

[n3rdling]

I think he was saying the limitation isn't soundstage, but instead weight.

 

[WarriorAnt]

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The magnetic field affects your brain to believe the soundstage is better than it really is.

I used to rent out my LCD as a portable MRI machine...
 

 

[Jian]

Today Ethan(athenaesword), my friend Lento and I did a round of A/Bing of two LCD3s, with some decent classical and jazz recordings. Mine's the one just shipped back early this week, and Ethan's a (after burn in) non-veiled LCD3. We have two EAR909s side by side balanced driving the LCD3s, playing same tracks simultaneously. The "newer" one is slightly a bit more transparent with a bit more air and layers to the sound. Well we think we at least find out one reason why "the non-veiled LCD3s get better". See the covers over the drivers inside the pads? And mine does has a pair of slightly firmer pads.
 
My LCD3

 
Ethan's LCD3

 

 
You may have noticed that we had different cables on the LCD3s in the last picture. Yes, we also A/Bed ALO chain mail cable and the Q audio cable. The result? To make it brief, the Q cable is more realistic with better micro dynamics, and the ALO cable more musical and has a touch of golden glare to the sound which I really enjoy. I'll report back more impressions after I spend more time with them.