[nauxolo]

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[gordolindsay]

Try to look at it from a speaker point of view, since headphones are essentially very small speakers.

If you tried powering a large pair of inefficient floorstanding speakers with a boombox integrated amp, it would sound like absolute crap...if it could move any sort of air at all. On the other hand, give them a good quality, dedicated, power amp and let them sing.

A good neutral amp is there to drive the speaker better, not change the sonic signature of the speaker, same goes with a headphone. You still need a quality amp to push the headphone, whether it be neutral or not.

 

[Tridacnid]

For reference. Some people like their music to sound "analytical" or more like "the artist intended it to be."

 

[amb]

Or, to draw an analogy -- if you were to visit the Louvre, would you rather view Mona Lisa in its original glory, or put on some colored lenses because "it would look better than the real thing"?

 

[Uncle Erik]

You also should consider that every headphone and speaker has different requirements for being driven. There's no one size fits all for amps; you need to find one suited to your headphones or speakers. A pair of IEMs is fine from the tiny amp in an iPod, but a pair of Apogee ribbons will overheat and destroy lesser amps. So pick the headphones or speakers you want, then find an amp suitable for driving your choice. Amps are not created equal.

 

[Hoss]

to make it louder

 

[nauxolo]

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[FallenAngel]

Quote:

Originally Posted by nauxolo /img/forum/go_quote.gif I see, I see that makes sense. So these amps are more to drive these high end/high impedance amps to their full potential? I guess I just have yet to try a headphone that requires more juice to power them. All the ones I have are low-imp, so even at 9'o clock on the dial, it is VERY loud. So I guess this is where 'synergy' comes from? The fact that some amps do not have neutral designs means that it works better for some headphones and less well for others? Kind of a way to balance out the sound? Interesting interesting...

It has nothing to do with volume, it's about enough voltage and current at any volume level.

There are lots of low-impedance headphones that greatly benefit from an amp - RS-1 and D2000 are definitely within that group.

 

[-=Germania=-]

I would put the high end Audio Technicas and the Audio Technica ES7 or ESW9 in that group.

The current is why people use portable headphone amps. You could easily pair portable headphones or IEMs with a standard player with plenty of volume. The amp is there to supply the current that some headphones just crave to give tight bass, full sound, and cleaner detail. They don't create detail, just help reveal what was there in the first place.

I personally like a neutral sound most of the time since I listen to a wide variety of music in a single sitting. It just doesn't make sense for me to change everything to listen to a single song and then change it again. You can get fabulous results doing that, but it is making the music into something it isn't at that point.

Coloring the sound is a fickle thing and one of the reasons why people may own multiple sets of headphones - it is just easier to switch out headphones than amps.

 

[krmathis]

Power resources

 

[synaesthetic]

Amplification is all about control of the driver.

It's not about making things louder and the bass deeper.

It's about designing a circuit that can grab the driver by the balls and make it dance.

 

[panda]

no dedicated amp = hand drawn line from someone with shaky hands

dedicated amp = line drawn with the guide of a straight edge.

which line will look better?

 

[freakmax]

I think it's fun to play with.

 

[scootermafia]

The line analogy is probably the best...it is entirely about control. Loudness is not control necessarily - it's like eating Burger King vs. a proper home cooked meal. Both are going to make you full, but the difference is obvious.

The amp is physically moving the drivers which then move the air, creating sound waves...it takes force from the electricity to make them move. Not much force in an ordinary headphone jack on an iPod. Some phones like IEMs have tiny drivers that are easy to power even with the puny integrated circuits inside the iPod. The HD650s have very large, 2-inch drivers.

 

[bobsmith]

Quote:

Originally Posted by amb /img/forum/go_quote.gif Or, to draw an analogy -- if you were to visit the Louvre, would you rather view Mona Lisa in its original glory, or put on some colored lenses because "it would look better than the real thing"?

I would agree with you if all artists/sound engineers were as good as da Vinci. Unfortunately, I have far too many albums where the engineering seems to resemble a toddler with fingerpaints more than a great master. These occasionally do benefit from some colored lenses imho