grizzlybeast
My name is grizzlybeast and I'm an audioholic.
awww man that counts me out. I would rather just stick with what I have. I don't want smaller cups
I confirm dweaver's comment; the cups on the NADs are smaller than the P7s. The P7s fully "circumnavigate" my ears (although my attached lobes get pressed a little). Feeling a bit better about the NAD fit today. If I nudge my ears up, sort of into the fold between the pad and the driver, it gives my lobes a break and also kinda flattens out my ear (effectively spreading the contact with the thin cushion over the driver grill). So I'm not getting so much localized pressure on the part of my ear that sticks out the most.
I'm still concerned (and perplexed) by the bass. One of the tracks I use to test bass is "Fire" by the JHE. Yes, it's a nearly fifty year old recording but the heavy bass riff that opens the song is helpful to me in determining the extension and effectiveness of the bass. I was shocked to hear how the NADs handled this. It sounded "out of control" and overblown. The P7s handled this with less bloat and more detail. The "shock" came from having read all the comments about the P7s bloated bass and the NADs supposed neutrality. Again, I'll see if the bass settles down after some more burn. I do agree that the treble is more neutral than the P7s and I like it better. Even though the P7s have improved with time, they still have occasional harshness in the treble.
So this is becoming a real horse race, as to which one I prefer. Right now they both have pros and cons.
it's either keep one or send 'em both back!
...or, heaven forbid, keep 'em both!?
I got to audition them yesterday together with the Momentum, PSB M4R1 & 2 and, man, these things sound sweet. Momentum disappointed me greatly, even though they are more comfortable. Not that the cups are bigger but my ears sit better inside, they are tiny though!
The PSB are just huge, not in my portable list.
Back to the NAD, the only thing I don't really like are that my tiny ears touch the driver as other suggested and that the headband puts so much pressure on the top of your head. I can see these being pay off my collection with some minor modifications, specially if there are velour pad options fitting on them.
Could you please make a comparison between NAD and PSB regarding both sound and comfort ?
Even with my low-tech mod, the fit isn't very good for me. For my ears the P7 is far more comfortable. The deeper cups are what I need. The sound signature on the HP50s is marginally better, but comfort will play a major role in my decision. I like the clarity of the B&W set; it's just occasionally fatiguing. And it still sounds to me like the bass is less focused on the NADs, no doubt a result of the warm "room feel" coloration. They are both very good sets; it comes down to subjective preference and fit.
these are for portable use right? i won't need an amp to power them?
these are for portable use right? i won't need an amp to power them?