My first “Head-fi.org Approved” System!?!

Feb 18, 2010 at 1:59 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

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I've been lurking around the forum for a month or so and I am ready to put together my first “Head-fi.org Approved” system. I guess I am starting to understand the concepts well enough to open up my wallet, but I’d love to get some input from other folks.

It all started back in 2002 with a set Sennheiser headphones (sorry I can’t remember the model). They were ~$100 closed headphones that I used for digital music and PC gaming (mostly FPS). I was so impressed with the sound they output that I found excuses to use them all of the time. Eventually, they broke and I never bothered to replace them because I stopped using the MP3 player and playing games.

I’ve recently gotten back into gaming, but this time on the consoles, and I remembered the advantage the headphones provided so I purchased a set of Turtle Beach X4s. I didn’t realize that my Panasonic plasma would make them unusable. As a side note, the TB X4s are for sale for anybody with a reasonable offer. Once I realized the TB X4s wouldn’t work (damned impulse buy) I wanted to figure out something else that would work, but would also extend beyond the Xbox 360 usage into a “surround sound replacement” to use with U-verse HDTV and my PS3 (games and blu-ray). I’d also probably use them with my computer for listening to music and movies and with my iPhone 3G, so an all-around performer would be nice!

Of course, I don’t want to spend a ton of money (especially having lost money on the TB X4s), but ~$150 for the headphones and amp seems reasonable. That being said, I am thinking about making my first system a set of Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 paired with a Pocket Amp 2 - Version 2 (PA2V2). My only concern is that I’ve never owned open headphones so I am a little worried about their isolation and the noise they put off to other people in the vicinity. Other than that they seem like a perfect choice.

Right now I don’t have an AV receiver so all of my sources plug into the TV which has an RCA line-out output. From that I would use RCA to stereo adapter to feed the amp and then the headphones. Eventually I want to get a decent receiver with Dolby Headphone or Yamaha’s Silent Cinema, but that will have to wait for a while until I have the money to do it right.

So what do you all think? Is this a good choice for a first setup, or should I keep researching? Any and all input would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Barber
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM Post #2 of 16
Barber, if isolation and noise-to-others is indeed a concern of yours, you will need to veer away from open headphones. Is there a particular reason you are looking at open headphones? Perhaps a Denon AH-D1001 or Audio-Technica ATH-50 in the headphones for sale section might fit the bill?
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 3:20 PM Post #3 of 16
Just remember, Barber, part of the thrill of having a "Headfi.org"-approved first setup is that no setup will never receive *unanimous approval*: we're all helpful, we all have very different critical tastes and experiences of gear, and nobody's shy about disagreeing. Gird yourself for dissent, whatever you choose.

A lot of folks would say that the smartest thing you can do prior to purchase is to actually listen to your options. Is there any place in your city where you could listen to the headphones you're considering?

I agree with vo328 that, if you're concerned about noise isolation, the AD-700s may not be your best bet. How loud are they? If I were sitting fifteen feet away from you, I might be able to listen along with the music you are listening to, as though it were being broadcast from a small (delightfully toned) transistor radio. If I were four feet away, I might be able to hear the lyrics perfectly clearly.

Enclosed 'studio' or 'studio-style' cans like the ATH-50s would indeed prevent the noise-bleed.
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM Post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by vo328 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Barber, if isolation and noise-to-others is indeed a concern of yours, you will need to veer away from open headphones. Is there a particular reason you are looking at open headphones? Perhaps a Denon AH-D1001 or Audio-Technica ATH-50 in the headphones for sale section might fit the bill?


The biggest reason I considered open headphones are specifically for the ATH-AD700s. The reason I had settled (maybe temporarily) on the ATH-AD700 is because of the soundstage and the price/performance ratio.

If I could find a closed set with similar soundstage (or at least good enough for the sources I've mentioned in my first post) and a similar price to performance ratio I'd probably buy them since that is what I am used to.

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Enclosed 'studio' or 'studio-style' cans like the ATH-50s would indeed prevent the noise-bleed.


Do the ATH-50s or Denon AH-D1001 have a good soundstage? What about the ATH-A700s?
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 6:38 PM Post #6 of 16
Feb 18, 2010 at 11:17 PM Post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by catachresis /img/forum/go_quote.gif
A lot of folks would say that the smartest thing you can do prior to purchase is to actually listen to your options.


Exactly.

The important 'approval' you need is your own.

Like catachresis says, all our opinions might be useful (or not) in guiding you but in the end it's your own unique experience of your overall system that will determine your satisfaction/'approval'/end of journey.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 2:21 AM Post #8 of 16
You need a "Barber approved system", which you'll only find through your own experiences.
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Feb 19, 2010 at 3:57 AM Post #9 of 16
I agree with Currawong. Try and sample and find the one that suits you.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 5:21 AM Post #11 of 16
Don't you recommend that to everyone?
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 6:42 AM Post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by VALIENTE /img/forum/go_quote.gif
"Valiente-approved system"
For a budget audiophile beginner:
Grado SR60 + PA2V2 amp + CD Player
Try it!



If gaming is involved, neither the SR60 or the CD player is going to be very useful. OP needs an all-rounder.

The generic response for gaming would be Astro Mixamp + K601 or AD900, but I imagine that wouldn't be a great setup for movies and music. $150 for the whole setup is kind of tight.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM Post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by VALIENTE /img/forum/go_quote.gif
"Valiente-approved system"
For a budget audiophile beginner:
Grado SR60 + PA2V2 amp + CD Player
Try it!



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Originally Posted by fenixdown110 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Don't you recommend that to everyone?


Right now, I´m laughing!
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Not that I have anything to the topic...
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 4:12 PM Post #15 of 16
Okay, I understand what everybody is saying about the only approval to matter is my own, but I still would like some recommendations so I know what to try when I do my shopping.

Again, I am trying to accomplish a gaming/movie setup where soundstage would be important. However, an all-arounder, in general, speaks to me because I could see myself using it with my iPhone or computer for music in addition to using it for gaming or watching movies.

Really, a list of headphones with high price to performance ratio would suffice and I could narrow it down from there by myself. I'd like to stay under the $150 mark for just the headphones if possible.

Does this request seem more appropriate?

Thanks,
Barber
 

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