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Grinch said:
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| it's this kind of mentality that makes me wish these consumer piggies would read more than they talk. simple tweaks and system upgrades can drastically change system speed, but we don't want to take the time to read and learn how to do these things. the human consumer sees their computer acting slow and decide to get a new one. simple as that. |
I do hope you are not implying I am a said piggy. As I use Debian and FreeBSD I would assume I do not fit the profile. As well, from what I wrote:
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| If he couldn't tweak it to run with less at baseline then upping the RAM would solve it. |
Listen, I am really sorry to have to break this to you but MOST people do not want to take the time to read through much documentation, web pages, books etc to tweak their system. When RAM can be had for $50, it is much easier to slap down the cash throw in an extra 256 Megs and be done with it. Time is money and MANY people do not care about computers; they simply want their own to work. Their time is more precious than, in their minds, wasting it reading stuff they don't find the least bit interesting. Let's figure a base hourly wage of $10. Perhaps one could find the necessary info in 5 hours to get things going, but included in that 5 hours would be the actual act of tweaking and testing. This is a very humble time and pay scale. The $50 for the RAM is just easier for most. Seriously, why ask how to tweak a system in a headphone forum? Why not go to an irc channel for pc newbies, or an XP channel, an XP site etc...no instead the question was posed here. Quick and dirty is what I offered. Buy more ram to fix it right up or go hunting for the proper tweaks on COMPUTER sites.
Then grinch writes:
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| . i stated that 2k is not bloated because we're talking about consumers here, not hardcore geeks. none of these posters are going to say "oh, ms sucks? let me try out linux instead!" and that be the end of it. on this level, 2k is the least bloated of the ms os's. i read what you said and using only 60mb of ram at idle is simply not possible when running xp, i don't care what eyecandy you turn off. this is my point. they took 2k and added eyecandy and you have xp.. so if you want the least amount of bloat, why not use the original product? oh wait, i guess i should tell every friend who asks me about their computer problem to just use linux instead.. |
My point EXACTLY. We ARE dealing with consumers here. Consumers DO NOT want to waste their time searching for info on how to tweak their system. "You mean I can spend $50 and get 256 megs and I won't feel the pinch anymore? Super!"
That is what the common reaction is. I KNOW this. I work at a high tech place and many of the management come to us for advice. Mention registry, control panel or any number of "areas" to begin and most will shudder. Tell them they can spend $50 and be done with it and they give a big thumbs up and go away smiling. This is my experience, this is the experience of many who have experience with consumers and hence the easy suggestion.
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| my system is over two years old. how can it "smoke" these brand new systems running ddr ram? their bus speeds are double mine and their cpu architecture is much newer. the answer is simple: i use windows 2000 professional and know how to tweak for speed and stability. i also know things like "anti-virus software is useless and sucks", "install security patches", "use brain when running shady .exe files", "when installing the os, separate music/games/pagefile from apps/system via multiple partitions." these things make an immense difference in overall system speed (in my situation anyway). |
First, did you READ what Flasken had under the hood?
An Athlon 1700+ at 1.47 Ghz, this is not better than your dual 933s. He also has 256 Megs of SDRAM...not DDR. You have 786 Megs of SDRAM....even if yours was 100 MHz and his was 133 MHz you SMOKE his system....you also run scsi drives, and who knows what else. You take the time to learn and know what is out there, how to tweak things etc. Good for you. I do as well, but it is very apparent that Flasken here does not have the same beast you have the privilege of running and once again...you seem to like having more than 256 Megs or RAM, I am sure he would too. I mean...surely one such as yourself running the highly functional, finely tuned Win 2k would not really need anything about 256? I mean you have an idle of 60? But wait you DO have a high amount of RAM, you know it speeds things up and I am certain you can attest to the fact that DOUBLING RAM will surely make at least an equal if not greater difference to the performance of his system vs. just tweaking.
Anyway, Flasken in the end, if you want immediate performance hike plug in more ram, if you want to tweak the **** out of your system and getting it running bare bones until you can equal the hike you would get from adding more ram, dude go for it. You will learn much. It is your choice, hopefully all this bickering didn't get in the way of all of us helping you out. In the end that is all we were trying to do.
sometimes i actually consider getting an ibook or a mac of some kind (and an ipod).. but then i think about how much i like using eac for ripping mp3s and can't stand drag-and-drop anything and it seems like such a waste for something that will be little more than a server. oh well, maybe someday when i become a laser surgeon who specializes in tattoo-removal will i be able to afford such frivolities..
