MUSE Tube 6N11 Class A Headphone Amplifier
Jan 11, 2011 at 4:22 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

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Anyone have any experience with these? They might just be the cheapest tube amps you can find.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380305412198&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
Jan 11, 2011 at 5:16 AM Post #2 of 16
I got one just for kicks.
 
There is a thread dedicated to tweaking these amps. In stock form they are prone to humming, distortion, channel imbalance, crosstalk etc, but they can be tweaked to sound better.
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 3:27 AM Post #4 of 16
Tell me how is it compared to other cheap amps! :D
I wanna try if its worth it.
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 3:35 AM Post #5 of 16
Well, it's quite powerful and offers a cheap way of getting one's feet wet with tubes, but the problem is that the design is flawed from the start, so it really is nothing more than a cheap amp that uses a tube.
 
I haven't made up my mind whether it was a waste of money or not. If I find the time/energy to research the required tweaks and carry them out, I guess it might even be worth it.
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 4:19 AM Post #7 of 16

Flawed design? Please explain.
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Well, it's quite powerful and offers a cheap way of getting one's feet wet with tubes, but the problem is that the design is flawed from the start, so it really is nothing more than a cheap amp that uses a tube.
 
I haven't made up my mind whether it was a waste of money or not. If I find the time/energy to research the required tweaks and carry them out, I guess it might even be worth it.



 
Jan 12, 2011 at 6:49 AM Post #8 of 16


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Flawed design? Please explain.

 


I don't have the knowledge to explain the details myself, but here is a certain thread (in Rock Grotto forums) outlining some of the shortcomings and required mods:
 
http://rockgrotto.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=m&action=print&thread=5297
 
Note that there are small differences in the Muse/Indeed/Bravo amps and their various versions.
 
 
Jan 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM Post #9 of 16
Well its 50 dollars so it's obviously not designed to compete with more expensive amps. If it was as good as a 500 dollars amp it would be priced as such! But i got one for DIY fun and will report on the sound when i get it later :)
 
Aug 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM Post #10 of 16
I just got one from ebay.  I have a question, I get random popping sounds and static, similar to listening to old vinyl records.  Do you think replacing the tube would help?
 
Aug 8, 2011 at 5:44 PM Post #11 of 16
Follow-up question.  My amp came with the pots for adjusting bias.  I tried adjusting them to get to 16v but is impossible to do.  When I adjust one side's bias voltage, the other side's voltage goes the opposite way.  They seem to be not independent of each other.  The best I could do to get them about the same voltage was at 12v.  Will that be fine?  Is it a tube problem?
 
Oct 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM Post #12 of 16
thecos00, where did you put your multimeter to check the values of the pots? I wanted to adjust mine since one of the MOSFET is overheating whilst the other one is not warm at all.. Thanks!
 
Oct 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM Post #13 of 16
Hey all,
 
I just got myself one of these from ebay as well =). I am still new to the world of audio but I want to try to share some of my thoughts about this amp if anyone is interested:
 
My first impressions are that they are pretty "ok". (But then again I wasnt expecting much for under 100 bucks)
 
My source is a Macbook using an Creative Xfi-Pro Soundcard.
Test Headphones : Ultrasone 550 and Ultrasone 900
 
I find that the highs roll off quite a little bit. But my greatest grip with these are that the bass is pretty poor. I am not a basshead by any means but I was testing them through my Ultrasone 550s and the bass was almost non existent. Even after switching to my Ultrasone 900, the bass was still pretty poor and lacking. This is pretty bad in my opinion because the Ultrasone 900s are supposed to be quite bass heavy.
 
On a side note, anyone know what the two orange "switches" near the tube are for?
 

 
Oct 28, 2011 at 3:07 PM Post #14 of 16


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Hey all,
I just got myself one of these from ebay as well =). I am still new to the world of audio but I want to try to share some of my thoughts about this amp if anyone is interested:
My first impressions are that they are pretty "ok". (But then again I wasnt expecting much for under 100 bucks)
My source is a Macbook using an Creative Xfi-Pro Soundcard.
Test Headphones : Ultrasone 550 and Ultrasone 900
I find that the highs roll off quite a little bit. But my greatest grip with these are that the bass is pretty poor. I am not a basshead by any means but I was testing them through my Ultrasone 550s and the bass was almost non existent. Even after switching to my Ultrasone 900, the bass was still pretty poor and lacking. This is pretty bad in my opinion because the Ultrasone 900s are supposed to be quite bass heavy.
On a side note, anyone know what the two orange "switches" near the tube are for?

Those two orange "screw things" are were you adjust the voltage for right and left channel, you want the two voltages to match, hopefully somewhere in the 12v to 13.5v range.
You need to get a digital mulitmeter, like the DT830, usually sells starting at $6.
The web forum Rockgrotto has more details on how to check the voltage
 
 
 
 
Oct 28, 2011 at 11:25 PM Post #15 of 16
Ah I see. Thanks! By the way has anyone rolled the tubes on this thing yet? I read from rockgrotto that some people used telefunkun tubes on theirs, but alas one of those tubes cost more than the amp itself... anyone know of any tube which is similiar to the telefunkun 12AU7 but at a cheaper price? Say... USD 30 ish? My only main concern is boosting soundstage from these amps.
 

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