Spyro
Headphoneus Supremus
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By the way that is great Peart solo. Maybe best I have seen!
Neil Peart was my favorite for decades until I was introduced to Jazz. My two favorites now are Dave Weckl and Antonio Sanchez. There are listeners and there are drummers. Sanchez and Weckl represent the best in the world of jazz (among many others). If any doubts I ask you to google each of them for 20 min or so and see what they can do (and teach). They both teach drumming but Weckl in particular has given back more to the drumming world than perhaps any drummer living today. He flat out loves teaching. I am no musiciam but am floored by his willingness to help others and watching his teaching videos. As far as Sanchez and Weckl , I have read that they both chuckle when they say it's usually the non-musicians that applaud their super fast insane licks where the normal musicisans in the audiences appreciate the other underneaath happenings that they carry the music with.
For anyone that is not familiar with Antonio Sanchez. He is here with the Pat Metheny Group. If you don't care to watch the whole 7min at least go to the 4:20 mark onward to see a master on his instrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efERFCN0B_0
I would have to agree with John Bonham. I remember my cousin, who was just starting to play drums, become fascinated with his playing. Don't get me wrong, he's a good drummer and everything, but I could never just see what people saw in him.
[size=medium]No one can say that Ringo Starr was / is a good technical drummer, certainly not deserving of all the adulation he received with those other three shaggy lads, right? But in my opinion, Ringo FIT the Beatles. He played well in the pocket and was a good time keeper. He played nothing flashy but what he did play was totally in the spirit of their songs and it is hard to imagine any other drummer on the throne behind those Ludwigs.[/size]
[size=medium]In my mind, a bigger sin is overplaying.[/size]
Ringo, I've always thought of him as the guy they send to get coffee.
What drummers do you think are overrated? Here's a few of mine:
1. Neil Peart - Seriously, what do people see in this guy? Just because he's in Rush doesn't make him good. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's terrible or anything, but I at least have never seen/heard him do anything really impressive. Overall very forgettable.
2. John Bonham - It seems to me like there's a similar "he's good because he's in Led Zeppelin" syndrome going on here, BUT I actually hesitate a little to call him overrated. I think he does actually live up to his name for the most part. Waaaaaaay better than Peart. Still, I don't think he's quite as good as some people make him out to be.
Also just noticed that this is my 666th post.
[size=medium]Interesting concept “overrated”.[/size]
[size=medium]Let’s take Neil Peart since he is on your list. I am not a Rush fan so I have not spent any time listening to how well (or not) he plays within that band’s construct. Being a hobby drummer myself, I appreciate the work he has done to promote drumming and percussion in the industry. I have friends that really enjoy his playing with Rush and that is good enough for them and me: not my cup of tea but so what?[/size]
[size=medium]No one can say that Ringo Starr was / is a good technical drummer, certainly not deserving of all the adulation he received with those other three shaggy lads, right? But in my opinion, Ringo FIT the Beatles. He played well in the pocket and was a good time keeper. He played nothing flashy but what he did play was totally in the spirit of their songs and it is hard to imagine any other drummer on the throne behind those Ludwigs.[/size]
[size=medium]To me, a good drummer is one who keeps rock solid time, doesn’t feel the need to fill every measure with strokes, and puts in a few strokes where you perhaps don’t expect them but consistent with the mood of the composition.[/size]
[size=medium]In my mind, a bigger sin is overplaying.[/size]
Go find the guy who sounded like John Bonham before Bonham forged his style.
He does not exist.
John created a style, a template that virtually every hard rock drummer who came after him after owes a debt of gratitude to.
He had a phenomal mastery of odd time signatures.
They don't sound awkward, they just flow, they sound very musical.
This was about inventing a new style, a new vocabulary a new way off playing.
Ringo............very very true.
It is impossible to imagine anyone else alying those parts.
The key here is he made up those parts and played them. Who else could have thought those parts up?
I see very few other drummers who have created such a unique style.
Try to find the guy who sounded like Ringo before Ringo, he doesn't exist.
Ringo is another guy who develpoed a style which is often copied, but never duplicated.
His influence on a generation of players is incredible, immeasurable.
Ringo is the guy who played on Revolver, Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Abbey Road, Let It Be. What an incredible stylist!