So far I have the electro harmonix LP came with. JJ gold pins and the gold lions. I'll be grabbing a different pair not sure which yet. Going to stock up for my end game amp.
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Monoprice Monolith Liquid Platinum - By Alex Cavalli
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LCMusicLover
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This!All too true, home sick (darn it), but absolutely loving Lucinda Williams serenading vía the awesome LP and ZMF Autuers, think I might be “sick” tomorrow as well .
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Do let us know your view on each and which one you liked the mostBTW, Siemens NOS E88CCs are sitting in my PO Box -- I was too lazy to come into town over the weekend to pick them up. They'll pop into the LP this evening, completing my initial set of tubes (Stock EH, Genalex Gold Lions, Amperex PQ 6922, Siemens). I figure I'll get a good sense of what's possible and what I'm looking for out of tube rolling. At least I'll be able to talk somewhat knowledgeably about how different tubes work with different cans. Sure didn't want to spring for more expensive tubes before learning A LOT more.
Current damages: $600 amp, $68 GLs, $83 Amperex, $101 Siemens -- so $852 total. Turns out that 15% eBay discount can really add up
toobuzz
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So far I have the electro harmonix LP came with. JJ gold pins and the gold lions. I'll be grabbing a different pair not sure which yet. Going to stock up for my end game amp.
I’m also on the lookout for another pair of tubes. I didn’t really like the Matsushite/National PCC88. They have a full, thick tone/timber, but really are lacking in macrodynamics (boring). Also, the top end is quite a bit rolled off compared the stock EH tubes.
I’m currently assessing a pair of 1978 Voskhok 6N23P. These were my favorite tune with my Lyr 2 and I really do like them with the LP, but I’m still forming my opinion on them.
LCMusicLover
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Yes, I will, but I expect it will take a while. Switching everything around is a pain, since swapping tubes requires an amp shutdown/restart. A minute (or so) doesn't seem like that long a wait, until it's the 11th time in the past two hoursDo let us know your view on each and which one you liked the most
I'll probably install tubes, rotate through my cans and form opinions about pairings with that tube, then switch to the next tubes and repeat. Once I've done that, I'll run a sort of Champions League playoff, compare the 'best pairings'.
I can see where this could get really complicated and time-consuming, detracting from actually enjoying the music. I'll attempt to avoid that.
I’m also on the lookout for another pair of tubes. I didn’t really like the Matsu****e/National PCC88. They have a full, thick tone/timber, but really are lacking in macrodynamics (boring). Also, the top end is quite a bit rolled off compared the stock EH tubes.
I’m currently assessing a pair of 1978 Voskhok 6N23P. These were my favorite tune with my Lyr 2 and I really do like them with the LP, but I’m still forming my opinion on them.
I'd like to grab some Amperex but I'm so confused between "PQ" and "Bugle Boy" and what sounds like what. Lots of options.
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Read this. It'll help: http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htmI'd like to grab some Amperex but I'm so confused between "PQ" and "Bugle Boy" and what sounds like what. Lots of options.
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BTW, Siemens NOS E88CCs are sitting in my PO Box -- I was too lazy to come into town over the weekend to pick them up. They'll pop into the LP this evening, completing my initial set of tubes (Stock EH, Genalex Gold Lions, Amperex PQ 6922, Siemens). I figure I'll get a good sense of what's possible and what I'm looking for out of tube rolling. At least I'll be able to talk somewhat knowledgeably about how different tubes work with different cans. Sure didn't want to spring for more expensive tubes before learning A LOT more.
Current damages: $600 amp, $68 GLs, $83 Amperex, $101 Siemens -- so $852 total. Turns out that 15% eBay discount can really add up
Well, on the other side, I do see that the sum of your headphone collection is heading to 15k at their MSRP
LCMusicLover
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I can assure you that I've never paid MSRP for any headphone (except my iBasso IEMs) or electronics. Closest to list for cans are my Auteur at the pre-order discount. Utopia were new on the Adorama open-box sale for $... well, let's just say less than 60% of list. Everything else is used -- though I did pay $1700 for my barely used Ether 2. So gauged by % of MSRP, Auteur and E2 are about tied for most expensive.Well, on the other side, I do see that the sum of your headphone collection is heading to 15k at their MSRP
I'd have to check, but I suspect I'm between $9 and 10k for headphones. Another $4 - 5K for electronics (and tubes ). Not to mention mumble mumble cables mumble mumble.
Still, a cheap hobby compared to say, flying, or even skiing. And there are probably folks out there who have spent more for 1 Stax setup. He!!, just picking up a Dave & Utopia at list would get you to the cost of all my gear.
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The LP is ultimately accurate. It reproduces what you feed it. If you do not like what you hear, then change what you are feed it. If the source is bad, the LP will let you know.What they are actually saying is that the Platinum is accurate to the original sound as given to it by the source. Saying it is too Dry makes this a negative when MHO opinion is that it is a positive.
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Some of us (like me...) are patiently waiting for some impressions...Yes, I will, but I expect it will take a while. Switching everything around is a pain, since swapping tubes requires an amp shutdown/restart. A minute (or so) doesn't seem like that long a wait, until it's the 11th time in the past two hours
I'll probably install tubes, rotate through my cans and form opinions about pairings with that tube, then switch to the next tubes and repeat. Once I've done that, I'll run a sort of Champions League playoff, compare the 'best pairings'.
I can see where this could get really complicated and time-consuming, detracting from actually enjoying the music. I'll attempt to avoid that.
I was going to buy new Genalex Gold Lions, but due to your (and couple other) posts - I am withholding for potentially better tubes at non-crazy prices. The Genalex, being new, are the easiest to find from multiple sources (and cheapest) but if something else in same ballpark is WAY better.........
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I got the Gold Lions and sold them. Prefer the warmer sound of stock. I wonder of there are tubes that have the same sound sig as stock but better. In any case the LP with stock is absolutely wonderful and am in no hurry to upgrade.
LCMusicLover
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I’ll happily bring my impressions, but I already have the feeling that this very much ‘my ears, your ears’.Some of us (like me...) are patiently waiting for some impressions...
I was going to buy new Genalex Gold Lions, but due to your (and couple other) posts - I am withholding for potentially better tubes at non-crazy prices. The Genalex, being new, are the easiest to find from multiple sources (and cheapest) but if something else in same ballpark is WAY better.........
Read this. It'll help: http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm
Understatement ! It helped tons ! I might get some "butt uglies" !
thanks for the link
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I am not ruling out just keeping the stock tubes.I got the Gold Lions and sold them. Prefer the warmer sound of stock. I wonder of there are tubes that have the same sound sig as stock but better. In any case the LP with stock is absolutely wonderful and am in no hurry to upgrade.
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