[rhythmdevils]

nice impressions!  Very articulate and well written, you perfectly described the same thing I hear listening to the K701 and K501, along with the leanness that lejaz mentioned.  I however, don't see any problem in the K501 treble that is remedied with the K701, and while I don't like the DT880 much, I haven't heard the 600 ohm version. 
 
Pataburd, have you heard a K400?  or anything earlier than the K501?  I feel like we've talked about them before, but can't remember now.

 

[lejaz]

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lejaz,
Found it.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/298239/yet-another-akg-k501-v-k701-review
 
PAB

Thanks. Just did a brief listen to the song 'Convoy' with the 702 and the 240DF, and the difference is pretty apparent in the background vocals. I was shocked the first time I listened to one of my own songs with the 702....it gave the vocals quite a different feeling in the context of the mix compared to the other headphone/speakers that I listened to. Need to do some more listening as I've only had the 702 for a couple of days. Really interesting thread!
 

 

[lejaz]

@pataburd...anyone:
 
Try the intro to "Run For Your Life" from the Beatles "Rubber Soul" album...and especially the solo starting at 59 sec. Just my take on it, but I prefer the way the 240DF handles the guitar in the context of the mix.

 

[pataburd]

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nice impressions!  Very articulate and well written, you perfectly described the same thing I hear listening to the K701 and K501, along with the leanness that lejaz mentioned.  I however, don't see any problem in the K501 treble that is remedied with the K701, and while I don't like the DT880 much, I haven't heard the 600 ohm version. 
 
Pataburd, have you heard a K400?  or anything earlier than the K501?  I feel like we've talked about them before, but can't remember now.

Rhythm,
No.  I have never heard the K400, nor anything earlier than the K501.
 
The K701 have a greater perceived sense of air and extension compared to the K501, but I think that is more due to the highs not being integrated with the upper mids/lower treble.  In terms of absolute HF extension, perhaps there is no notable improvement, but this is purely speculative for me at this point, since I no longer own the K70x.
 
The DT880/600, while still midrange-lean, still offer a better balanced and integrated midrange compared to the K70x, and are certainly more midrange-present than the DT880/2003/250 ohm.  IMHO, the DT880/600 (2005) are a far cry smoother, more balanced and cohesive than their 250 ohm counterparts.
 
Admittedly, with the exception of the DT880/250 ohm/2005, I have always had a preference for the DT880.
 
PAB

 

[pataburd]

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@pataburd...anyone:
 
Try the intro to "Run For Your Life" from the Beatles "Rubber Soul" album...and especially the solo starting at 59 sec. Just my take on it, but I prefer the way the 240DF handles the guitar in the context of the mix.

lj,
Will audition this track, but I have neither the K240 nor the K70x anymore.  I can, however, a/b this track using the DT880/600 and the UPOCC K501.  In fact, now that the Beyers are getting broken in (~150 hours), I can report on their differences.
 
One thing I do like about the DT880/600 is their immediacy; they are much more up-front compared to the K501, but without being inordinately "in-your-face".  There's an intimacy in their urgency that makes them special.
 
pab 

 

[lejaz]

Look forward to it. I think it's a good track for comparing. I'm definitely used to something more 'upfront' than the 702...especially my Event monitors. They're almost like the v6's with the mids more 'in your face'...probably more rude than 'intimate' though. The 702 is definitely more refined. The 240DF gets the balance just right...not too upfront...not too laid back... IMO

 

[MarkJnK]

IMHO, the DT990/600 combines the 701 sparkle, and airy soundstage with a lush warm and impactful bass response.  The best of both worlds.  The GS1000 also does this but might be a bit "too much" bass for some people.
 

 

[pataburd]

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IMHO, the DT990/600 combines the 701 sparkle, and airy soundstage with a lush warm and impactful bass response.  The best of both worlds.  The GS1000 also does this but might be a bit "too much" bass for some people.
 

MJ,
I've never heard the DT990 in any of their iterations.  In fact, I've only ever heard the DT880: 2003, 2005/250 ohm and 2005/600 ohm.  Your description sounds alluring, though.  : )
pab

 

[fishski13]

pataburd,
it's nice to see you back

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i want the K501, but i would have a hard time deciding between the K702 and K601.  the K601 is more forgiving and laid-back.  the K702 is more forward, dynamic, and "fun".  i prefer the sound-stage of the K601 - it's spectacular with opera and large orchestral.  the K271 plays nice with everything, especially with the dyed Beyer Headphile pads.
 
i've never had a problem with the upper mid-range of the K702 with the y-2 DAC as my source - the BM DAC1 is another story.  i'm currently listening to Puccini via the K702 and a y-1/ck2III/preamp i built for a friend that is in the DIY man-cave with some chassis related thermal issues, requiring vent holes to be drilled out.  sounds fantastic.  a y-2/ck2III sounds even better. 

 

[pataburd]

fishski13,
Thank you for your gracious welcome.
 
It's nice to be back.  : )
 
pab

 

[dogears]

One of the best review of K701 and K501 I've read so far that echoes my perception between these two headphones. Well done.
BTW, did you try the K501 with the K701's pads??? With the K701s pads on the K501, there is no contest - my K701 is already for sale and I'm waiting for delivery of K701 replacement pads.