Arcayne
100+ Head-Fier
Okay I'll join with my pairing of choice, Empy + Euforia. I most definitely agree that Empy takes very well to a good tube pairing. 
Meze EMPYREAN - the First Isodynamic Hybrid Array Headphone
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Please stop, you're feeding the "Empyrean is just for looks" narrative
Nothing wrong with that around these parts, nothing wrong at all
DownToThis
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Until my new dac and amp come through my copper empyreans are having to settle
Terriero
Headphoneus Supremus
If someone ships to me his/her cooper Empyrean, I will take them a pic for this thread 
Unseen Aura
100+ Head-Fier
If you ship your camera to me, I will finally be able to take a proper set of photos of the copper EmpyreanIf someone ships to me his/her cooper Empyrean, I will take them a pic for this thread
. Great set of cans but very schitty camera in comparison.
DownToThis
Head-Fier
I'm really loving my empyrean, do they really need to break in? Do folks just leave them running in the beggining? I'd prefer to listen to them and it seems a waste to have running without me!
Has anyone tried Danacables Lazuli Reference (or Reference Plus) for the Empyreans? How about Arctic Magnus cables? Really curious if there's a preference or difference between them. I've read a lot of good things about both.
Just enjoy it. It will break in even if you do not leave it running.
BenSherman
Head-Fier
I've had mine about a month and it sounds better every day. No need to leave it playing - just let it happen when you enjoy them.
The best thing I did was to pair them with a Denafrips Ares II and a high quality tube amp. I couldn't recommend this combo more highly. The Ares II gives the Empyrean a beautiful wide open soundstage, and the Miltra OTL-8XT enhances the lush and organic sounds of the Empys perfectly.
DownToThis
Head-Fier
That sounds like an amazing combo! I have an mhdt orchid on the way. Was really interested in the Ares II as well.
Unseen Aura
100+ Head-Fier
Personal beliefs & preference. It's whatever you want to be nit picky about and what you want to enjoy.
While I believe some cans may need burn-in, I believe in brain burn-in a lot more & that ultimately it doesn't matter (to me, minimum). The most complicated organ rests on our shoulders and having brain damage actively proves forevermore it handles and processes more than we can consciously be picky about. So while sound may change, our brains will be adjusting and tweaking quite a bit to make it less problematic. Ultimately falls down to the individual and their whiny-ness and what they choose to believe, and in turn preach.
To me, don't care for such trivial stuff, have other matters that require energy more than slight sound changes. And have learned enough about sound to confidently say it doesn't matter in general. But if you want it to matter it doesn't hurt anyone either, save for electric bills or other life crap that happens. Similar to cable burn-in or hearing cable difference. I do and don't believe in it and can/can't tell a difference. But ultimately don't care enough either which way, I know I'll get cable upgrades when I can afford it, and also that I cannot really, if at all, tell any differences whatsoever.
What you hear and then choose to believe in also makes a difference, because as humans we are influenced quite easily, and experiences can change it or confirm it. Like hearing something after coming across someone else sharing that tidbit, or hearing a change after burn-in because you believe burn-in makes a difference.
I didn't bother with such crap. I listen to my stuff to listen and enjoy, I can trust my brain to adjust accordingly. It's life & nothing's perfect, and I rather listen more and complain less. Also, I'm listening for me, and to relax and get lost in the music. It's why I jumped from V-Moda to Empyrean, and why I'm sticking to Meze there on out. Antonio created it with that intent and it's the only time I've had such a connection with headphones. I will do just that, irregardless of how factual burn-in and cabling might be, because I don't care enough, and mind over matter being a real thing in many ways, it'll become that reality for me because I chose to believe in it so firmly.
Hope that makes sense. And glad for you getting the Empyrean, they're excellent cans, I'm modding them aesthetically to have a custom pair and because I can, they're so beautiful to look at and excellently tactile.
Terriero
Headphoneus Supremus
Good words... Seemed to me that I was reading the Sound Science Sub-forumPersonal beliefs & preference. It's whatever you want to be nit picky about and what you want to enjoy.
While I believe some cans may need burn-in, I believe in brain burn-in a lot more & that ultimately it doesn't matter (to me, minimum). The most complicated organ rests on our shoulders and having brain damage actively proves forevermore it handles and processes more than we can consciously be picky about. So while sound may change, our brains will be adjusting and tweaking quite a bit to make it less problematic. Ultimately falls down to the individual and their whiny-ness and what they choose to believe, and in turn preach.
To me, don't care for such trivial stuff, have other matters that require energy more than slight sound changes. And have learned enough about sound to confidently say it doesn't matter in general. But if you want it to matter it doesn't hurt anyone either, save for electric bills or other life crap that happens. Similar to cable burn-in or hearing cable difference. I do and don't believe in it and can/can't tell a difference. But ultimately don't care enough either which way, I know I'll get cable upgrades when I can afford it, and also that I cannot really, if at all, tell any differences whatsoever.
What you hear and then choose to believe in also makes a difference, because as humans we are influenced quite easily, and experiences can change it or confirm it. Like hearing something after coming across someone else sharing that tidbit, or hearing a change after burn-in because you believe burn-in makes a difference.
I didn't bother with such crap. I listen to my stuff to listen and enjoy, I can trust my brain to adjust accordingly. It's life & nothing's perfect, and I rather listen more and complain less. Also, I'm listening for me, and to relax and get lost in the music. It's why I jumped from V-Moda to Empyrean, and why I'm sticking to Meze there on out. Antonio created it with that intent and it's the only time I've had such a connection with headphones. I will do just that, irregardless of how factual burn-in and cabling might be, because I don't care enough, and mind over matter being a real thing in many ways, it'll become that reality for me because I chose to believe in it so firmly.
Hope that makes sense. And glad for you getting the Empyrean, they're excellent cans, I'm modding them aesthetically to have a custom pair and because I can, they're so beautiful to look at and excellently tactile.
ThanatosVI
Headphoneus Supremus
Just in a much more civilized manner, than in the sound science sub forumGood words... Seemed to me that I was reading the Sound Science Sub-forum
DownToThis
Head-Fier
Great points and thanks for the insights. When I first got a chance to listen to them I had no intention of buying the empyreans. I wasn't really interested in them to begin with. But out of all the headphones I sampled that day for some reason I kept reaching back for them. Then I kept thinking about them after I left the store. They did something that dayPersonal beliefs & preference. It's whatever you want to be nit picky about and what you want to enjoy.
While I believe some cans may need burn-in, I believe in brain burn-in a lot more & that ultimately it doesn't matter (to me, minimum). The most complicated organ rests on our shoulders and having brain damage actively proves forevermore it handles and processes more than we can consciously be picky about. So while sound may change, our brains will be adjusting and tweaking quite a bit to make it less problematic. Ultimately falls down to the individual and their whiny-ness and what they choose to believe, and in turn preach.
To me, don't care for such trivial stuff, have other matters that require energy more than slight sound changes. And have learned enough about sound to confidently say it doesn't matter in general. But if you want it to matter it doesn't hurt anyone either, save for electric bills or other life crap that happens. Similar to cable burn-in or hearing cable difference. I do and don't believe in it and can/can't tell a difference. But ultimately don't care enough either which way, I know I'll get cable upgrades when I can afford it, and also that I cannot really, if at all, tell any differences whatsoever.
What you hear and then choose to believe in also makes a difference, because as humans we are influenced quite easily, and experiences can change it or confirm it. Like hearing something after coming across someone else sharing that tidbit, or hearing a change after burn-in because you believe burn-in makes a difference.
I didn't bother with such crap. I listen to my stuff to listen and enjoy, I can trust my brain to adjust accordingly. It's life & nothing's perfect, and I rather listen more and complain less. Also, I'm listening for me, and to relax and get lost in the music. It's why I jumped from V-Moda to Empyrean, and why I'm sticking to Meze there on out. Antonio created it with that intent and it's the only time I've had such a connection with headphones. I will do just that, irregardless of how factual burn-in and cabling might be, because I don't care enough, and mind over matter being a real thing in many ways, it'll become that reality for me because I chose to believe in it so firmly.
Hope that makes sense. And glad for you getting the Empyrean, they're excellent cans, I'm modding them aesthetically to have a custom pair and because I can, they're so beautiful to look at and excellently tactile.
And I'm also considering the upgrade cables but first I need more time to enjoy them. Well I am pending a dac/amp upgrade so there's that....
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