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Meze EMPYREAN - the First Isodynamic Hybrid Array Headphone

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by MezeTeam, Feb 9, 2018.
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  1. betula
    These are my condensed thoughts on the 12 core Master silver cable from Lavricables after two weeks of testing versus the stock cable.
    I am usually very careful with cable upgrades, but the difference here is undeniable. The stock cable sounds more 'simple', more boring, less full, less filled up and less natural.
    The silver cable sounds more natural, more balanced, more filled up and fuller.
    The silver cable is also much lighter.
  2. nwavesailor
    Are there 12 'cores' per silver wire in your Lavicables?
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2019
  3. betula
    I am not sure if I completely understand the question. It is a 12 core silver cable I have got.
  4. nwavesailor
    I have the Norne S-3 and it has 11 cores per wire or (44 cores total) for the 4 wire version. That why I asked about the 12 cores of your Lavricable.

    Just curious about core totals.............
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2019
  5. betula
    I believe it is 12 versus 11 in this case. You can find more information here.
  6. nwavesailor
    Oh, I see...............so YOUR cable 'goes to 12' :innocent:where my cable only 'goes to 11' :disappointed: (Thanks to Spinal Tap!)
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2019
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  7. betula
    I don't think that matters much...
  8. nwavesailor
    Sorry, betula. I was trying to make a joke. Have you seen "This is Spinal Tap"?

    There is a great line where he talks about his amplifier: "It goes to 11! "
  9. betula
    I see. I couldn't remember, but after looking up 'Spinal Tap' now I know I have seen it before and I got what you meant. :)
  10. nwavesailor
    I worked for an audio company and their first preamp model had an '11' on the volume pot! :nerd:
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  11. Bonddam
    I ordered the Skruag(not on the website yet) from Norne Audio which is silver and copper mix. When I a/b zmf silver vs black dragon(copper) I found I like the all copper. My brain told me there was more bass on the copper. I'm hoping the Norne cable will tell my brain there is bass and micro detail.
  12. racebit
    Initially I planned to build three. I may build a third one later. After all I have 7 headphones total.
    If people are interested I can post a diagram with the dimensions I used, and a few other details.
    It took considerable measurements and averaging of my different headphones dimensions to come with these dimensions matching them all.
    But people may want to fine tune for their own headphones, and preferences.
    For example the Clear would be best with a larger 140mm (rather than 110mm) diameter pipe, but it would not work as well with the others. I considered building one with 140mm, but I thought wasn't worth to buy a 1m pipe just for one stand when I still had 110mm pipe left.
    And people may prefer a 125mm tube to make HPs more snug and better protected against dust, at a cost of a small permanent pressure on the earpads.
  13. tradyblix
    Cables do make a difference. But its generally a small difference. All tweaks over time tend to add up in a system tho. My rule of thumb is not to go over about 10 percent of the components cost when upgrading cabling. And there are a lot of claims in cabling marketing which are open for debate. Such things as Directionality, Metal Type, Long Grain Crystal size, Cast Process, Geometry, Weld Type, Di-electric qualities, whether your di-electric needs a charge running through it (ie, DBS).... so yeah. I get it. On the other hand my system sounds amazing and I have never wanted to return an upgraded cable yet, soo.....
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  14. lentoviolento
    i sell mine if someone in interested. can't keep them, too expensive...
  15. Newsee
    May I ask you to elaborate how did you come to this conclusion?

    I suppose you new how much it costs when you bought it. Was it not too expensive already at that time? If not, has something changed? If yes, why buy? I normally do not buy something what i know is too expensive (hm. really? :thinking::thinking::thinking:). It really becomes expensive when you have to sell it, because the difference is away, and you have nothing, but maybe the experience for it. Or is there something here what is not normal? I would like to understand how it works.
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