[Afsa]

I just had them on my head. Better separation between instruments. To the point that I can hear Instruments i couldn't hear before. And a clearer sound. I think they are better then the Empyreans. Witch I have owned for the last 3 years.
If I can figure out a trade in with the dealer I'm buying them.

 

[Ichos]

If these new Meze's have reduced the warmth and bass just a tad these could be killer headphones!

:>)

Order one, it is exactly what you are looking for.
+ Some extra technicalities.

 

[alxw0w]

I wonder how classic empys would measure with hybrid pads.

 

[BTD1]

I have the Elites. You can see from my signature I own several TOTL headphones. The Solitaire P, Utopia and Susvara are all unique in what they do. The Solitaire, for instance has a signature richness and 3D depth and surround unlike anything else I own. The Elites are, so far, not on the level of the 3 mentioned above; I can’t find (yet) what makes them special by comparison to my top 3. They are extremely comfortable and meticulously crafted and easy to listen to. I have started to EQ them and they take to it well. The issue is that with classical music there is such a wide variance as to the size or type of ensemble and how the recordings were made. Without some EQ some recordings sound lovely and others sound like the orchestra or choir was in a cave. I am using a Lokius hardware EQ and I will continue to try out different types of classical music with the Elites. Also, the built in tone controls on the RME Dac fs really make a difference with the Elites on some recordings. Hopefully, I just need more time with them.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I have the Elites. You can see from my signature I own several TOTL headphones. The Solitaire P, Utopia and Susvara are all unique in what they do. The Solitaire, for instance has a signature richness and 3D depth and surround unlike anything else I own. The Elites are, so far, not on the level of the 3 mentioned above; I can’t find (yet) what makes them special by comparison to my top 3. They are extremely comfortable and meticulously crafted and easy to listen to. I have started to EQ them and they take to it well. The issue is that with classical music there is such a wide variance as to the size or type of ensemble and how the recordings were made. Without some EQ some recordings sound lovely and others sound like the orchestra or choir was in a cave. I am using a Lokius hardware EQ and I will continue to try out different types of classical music with the Elites. Also, the built in tone controls on the RME Dac fs really make a difference with the Elites on some recordings. Hopefully, I just need more time with them.

Since you also have the Solitaire.
Does the Elite have more Bass quantity than the Solitaire?

 

[BTD1]

Since you also have the Solitaire.
Does the Elite have more Bass quantity than the Solitaire?

I would say that the bass on the Solitaire-P sounds deeper, and clearer with no "smearing." The Elites have plenty of bass, but it isn't the same quality that the Solitaire's have. For instance, in a chamber music octet that has string quartet instruments plus a double bass, the low notes of the double bass are crystal clear. You don't get this detail and clarity with the Elite's bass. Again, I'm speaking to classical music.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I would say that the bass on the Solitaire-P sounds deeper, and clearer with no "smearing." The Elites have plenty of bass, but it isn't the same quality that the Solitaire's have. For instance, in a chamber music octet that has string quartet instruments plus a double bass, the low notes of the double bass are crystal clear. You don't get this detail and clarity with the Elite's bass. Again, I'm speaking to classical music.

Thank you, so more quantity but less quality.
Pretty much in line with my expectations. Nothing matched the P in Bass quality so far (never heard Abyss and LCD-4 tho)

 

[Ichos]

I find the Elite classical music masters.
Haven't heard the solitaire though.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I find the Elite classical music masters.
Haven't heard the solitaire though.

You should fix that.
The Solitaire P is amazing.
Certainly up on Abyss and Susvara level!

 

[parmiep]

How do the Elite stack up to the D8000 Pro? I feel like the OG Empyrean got compared to the FAD TOTLs often so would be curious to hear thoughts there given the D8000 often get compared to the other TOTLs like Susvara, Abyss and Utopia themselves.

 

[Ichos]

You should fix that.
The Solitaire P is amazing.
Certainly up on Abyss and Susvara level!

I have just inquired for an hxosplus review.
Let's see how it goes.

BTW , in my opinion the Elite represents the recording venue exactly as it was captured with all the reverb and the surrounding space.
So it easily adapts from solo violin into a church to a large hall or a studio recording.
If the mastering engineer was good then you get rewarded otherwise skip for another song.

 

[lucasratmundo]

How do the Elite stack up to the D8000 Pro? I feel like the OG Empyrean got compared to the FAD TOTLs often so would be curious to hear thoughts there given the D8000 often get compared to the other TOTLs like Susvara, Abyss and Utopia themselves.

I'm curious about the comparison with the D8000 Pro too.

 

[paradoxper]

You should fix that.
The Solitaire P is amazing.
Certainly up on Abyss and Susvara level!

Indeed. Like a warmer Susvara.

You still need a TC in your life.

 

[ThanatosVI]

Indeed. Like a warmer Susvara.

You still need a TC in your life.

I'm afraid the treble might be too much for ne on the Abyss

 

[Ichos]

Indeed. Like a warmer Susvara.

You still need a TC in your life.

Come on guys , they are really expensive, I can't afford them