Marantz HD-DAC1
Apr 20, 2015 at 3:03 PM Post #361 of 1,283
  No, I already tried that, no change in the mids with other gain settings.
I hope it's really just because of the burn-in period, we will see in a few weeks. :)
 
Btw, what's about the EL-8? Is it good with this DAC? Can you compare to the HE-400i maybe?


Don't have my HiFiMan stuff yet, but listening to the EL-8 on the HD-DAC1 right now and it's a very nice match, mids are fantastic on female vocals.  Nice tight bass with decent extension and now that the EL-8 have settled in the highs are pretty smooth and revealing.  Great $1,500 system
 
Apr 20, 2015 at 3:12 PM Post #362 of 1,283
 
Don't have my HiFiMan stuff yet, but listening to the EL-8 on the HD-DAC1 right now and it's a very nice match, mids are fantastic on female vocals.  Nice tight bass with decent extension and now that the EL-8 have settled in the highs are pretty smooth and revealing.  Great $1,500 system

Yet? 
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Good for you man, I can't wait to hear those nice female vocals.
I think I will set my playlist to repeat and leave the system switched on, in the next 2 week, while I'll be in work to burn-in as fast as possible.
 
Apr 20, 2015 at 10:36 PM Post #363 of 1,283
 I think I will set my playlist to repeat and leave the system switched on, in the next 2 week, while I'll be in work to burn-in as fast as possible.

Thats what i did on my previous system.
But this time i enjoyed to hear the progress while listening.
 
It takes a few days to get familiar with the sound.
Your brain needs some burn-in, too
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Apr 22, 2015 at 8:45 AM Post #365 of 1,283
  Hi all,
 
I got mine last week and it has a beautiful, emotional sound, really like it.
I'm using it with a Hifiman HE-400i.
Only one thing I noticed, the middle range, the voices, sounds like they would be in the background, blunt a little bit.
Anybody else experienced this with any headphone?

 
Pleased to hear you like it.  I had no issues with the mids on mine though (with Sennheiser HD800 / HD540).
 
  I noticed changes after burning in the Headphones, the Amp and the Cables.
It's not like the whole Soundsignature changes, but it's there.
It opens up. Cannot explain it better with my bad english, sorry
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When i received the Amp i first was kind of disappointed about the middle range, like you are.
Brass and percussion didn't sound very natural.
After a few weeks of normal play it was gone.

 
I can understand (and experienced) the need for "burning in" electrolytic capacitors and perhaps some semiconductor junctions, and also for speakers and headphones (although I think the term suspension relaxation would be more appropriate for the latter), but personally I would draw the line at the idea of "burning in" cables. The engineer in me doesn't buy into that last one, unless maybe for a coaxial that had been stored in seriously humid conditions, so the dielectric has a chance to dry out.
 
  Thats what i did on my previous system.
But this time i enjoyed to hear the progress while listening.
 
It takes a few days to get familiar with the sound.
Your brain needs some burn-in, too
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I indeed believe the "burn in" phenomenon is mostly (though not exclusively) a matter of the brain adapting to the sound signature.  However, this in no way invalidates the notion that a few days listening are required to form a balanced (and nevertheless subjective) judgment on the sound signature.
 
Apr 22, 2015 at 8:54 AM Post #366 of 1,283
  I indeed believe the "burn in" phenomenon is mostly (though not exclusively) a matter of the brain adapting to the sound signature.  However, this in no way invalidates the notion that a few days listening are required to form a balanced (and nevertheless subjective) judgment on the sound signature.

My friend heard it at the first day, and noticed the mid problem too.
He's living in an other city, so don't using the DAC day by day.
If I will hear some changes after a few week, I will call him out again.
If he will hear the changes too, then it not just a brain adapting thing.
I think it will be a good test. :)
 
Apr 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM Post #367 of 1,283
 
Don't have my HiFiMan stuff yet, but listening to the EL-8 on the HD-DAC1 right now and it's a very nice match, mids are fantastic on female vocals.  Nice tight bass with decent extension and now that the EL-8 have settled in the highs are pretty smooth and revealing.  Great $1,500 system


Just got the EL-8 and really liking it with the Marantz.  Yes, Mids are fantastic - Norah Jones sounds phenomenal in the DSD64 format.
 
Apr 25, 2015 at 11:25 PM Post #368 of 1,283
Does anyone know if the Marantz CD5005 Optical Audio out will also play a marantz receiver radio through it? I'm wanting to use it with a headphone Amp and Dac by Schiit Audio but my sr5009 dosnt have optical audio out
 
Apr 26, 2015 at 2:55 AM Post #369 of 1,283
Regarding burn-in - I haven't noticed any long term improvement with burn-in for the HD-DAC1.
 
However, from the first day I had it, the difference in sound quality between right after turning it on and after it has had time to "warm up" is quite noticeable. The problems I had with random noise with my first (faulty) unit didn't show up until it had warmed up. With my new unit, the sound quality definitely improves with warm-up!
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM Post #370 of 1,283
Got Mine today,
I'm glad I can report no issues with locking / hum / or any other not pleasant oddities ...
Sounds fantastic paired with AKG7xx, soon will have my HD800 back, which I borrowed, but can't wait already ...
After lecture of this thread I have to admit I was bit sceptical about reliability of the unit, however, got absolutely no problems with mine. (UK version)
Will play music through over next two days then report on burning in, not much to tell about sonic signature so far, simply it require bit of A/B in my case.
I will be comparing against my sabre9018/head-amp diy combo, as well as PM11S1 more details soon, if I find a minute or two :)
Oh... one more aspect, this thing  is build like a tank, heavy, feels solid, feels quality, all the way, well done Marantz
 
May 3, 2015 at 5:24 AM Post #371 of 1,283
As I use this repaired unit more and with different music & cans, I will update with further impressions.


Hello all. I just enjoyed a late night session with HD DAC1 (high gain) with stock HD800 (16xxx serial range) fed by TIDAL/iPad 3 and a £30 30 pin to usb into the idevice port.

The unit ran hot after 2-3 hours but all aspects of presentation were satisfying on good quality recordings. Not much mercy for poor quality mastering/recording though! Instinctively high gain sounds the most authorative but another person earlier wrote would have higher distortion. The next session will be at mid gain.

Overall I am 'enjoying the music' more and 'listening to gear' less.

Would appreciate reading others' views.

Best

James
 
May 3, 2015 at 6:32 AM Post #372 of 1,283
Overall I am 'enjoying the music' more and 'listening to gear' less.

Would appreciate reading others' views.

Best

James

 
That's what it's all about in the end :wink:
 
My preferred gain setting on the HD DAC1 is MID. My source is mostly a MBP (13" retina with SSD) with Audirvana plus or Fidelia software. Headphones mostly used are HD650, DT880 and Focal Spirit Pro.
 
Try some music from Quadro Nuevo for example their Antakya album. 
 
May 5, 2015 at 7:05 PM Post #373 of 1,283
I just ordered one of these. It says that they've had it in storage since February 4th, 2015 (not sure if it means that they've been selling the product since then or if those units they had have been there since then). Anyhow, surely this can't be a unit from the first batch (that seems to have been hit or miss)? It should be from one of the later batches I hope. 
 

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