Lyr 3 - The new Coherence™ and Continuity™ hybrid amplifier from Schiit - Impression & discussion thread

[quimbo]

Has anyone tested this with vintage 600 ohm headphones such as the AKG K240 Sextetts or the Sennheiser HD540s?

Looking to replace my Asgard 2 because of these differences

Lyr 3 - Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 450mW RMS per channel

Asgard 2 - Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 190mW RMS per channel

 

[ProfFalkin]

Has anyone tested this with vintage 600 ohm headphones such as the AKG K240 Sextetts or the Sennheiser HD540s?

Looking to replace my Asgard 2 because of these differences

Lyr 3 - Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 450mW RMS per channel

Asgard 2 - Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 190mW RMS per channel

The Asgard not loud enough?

 

[quimbo]

The AKG240s 'sing' with more power. I can feel that they are being held back

 

[ProfFalkin]

The AKG240s 'sing' with more power. I can feel that they are being held back

The Lyr 3 would give you more juice. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the Lyr sounds quite different from the Asgard though.

 

[quimbo]

I'm ok with that, especially with the Loki in the chain. I can re purpose the Asgard 2, maybe replace my Magni 3 at work

 

[XERO1]

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts the Lyr sounds quite different from the Asgard though.

With tubes, yes. But when I used LISST tubes with my Lyr 2 and compared it to my Asgard 2, they sounded virtually identical to me.

Also, the Lyr 2 with LISST tubes ran noticeably cooler than the Asgard 2. And I would imagine that the Lyr 3 with a LISST tube would run even cooler, which is always a plus in my book.

 

[ProfFalkin]

With tubes, yes. But when I used LISST tubes with my Lyr 2 and compared it to my Asgard 2, they sounded virtually identical to me.

Also, the Lyr 2 with LISST tubes ran noticeably cooler than the Asgard 2. And I would imagine that the Lyr 3 with a LISST tube would run even cooler, which is always a plus in my book.

Hmmm... with the Lyr 3 being completely redesigned from the ground up, I doubt that holds true in this case.

I had an Asgard 2. If the L2+LISST sounds like an A2, then I can tell you that my Lyr 3 definitely sounds very different.

 

[lystor]

Hi

Is it worth upgrading from Jotunheim Multibit to Lyr 3 Multibit?

Phones: Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro
Monitors: Focal Alpha 65

Thank you

 

[ProfFalkin]

Hi

Is it worth upgrading from Jotunheim Multibit to Lyr 3 Multibit?

Phones: Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro
Monitors: Focal Alpha 65

Thank you

That is hard to say. So far, I think the Lyr is better. That could just be new toy syndrome talking, but I think the clarity and sound stage are much better on the Lyr. Being able to roll tubes to customize the sound is a great benefit, but it also makes the whole endeavor more expensive.

Also - Are you running the monitors from the Jotunheim? There are no balanced outputs on the Lyr.

 

[MtnMan307]

Hi

Is it worth upgrading from Jotunheim Multibit to Lyr 3 Multibit?

Phones: Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro
Monitors: Focal Alpha 65

Thank you

The DT 1990 is a 250 ohm headphone with a single ended wiring if I understand the description right. The Jotunheim puts out maybe 400mW at 250 ohms in SE mode. You would need to run balanced to get the full horsepower of the Jot, may not be feasible or cheap to convert the 1990s to balanced. The Lyr 3 is single ended only, no balanced output, but it puts out similar power numbers to the Jot's balanced output. 900mW at 300 ohms for both Jot Balanced and Lyr 3.

I have a Jotunheim and love it, but have never owned the 1990s or listened to them with it. I haven't heard the Lyr 3 but on paper it looks better for your 1990s.

 

[Motocrossman24]

Is the lyr3 a warmer sounding amp then the jotunheim for those who have experience with it? I am into hifiman headphones and have not had issues thinking they’re bright like many do, but I do want to get the warmer of the two amps as I prefer a touch warmer sound sig. also like that it can be flipped from tube to ss which seems a pretty interesting feature

 

[Wes S]

First couple of hours with my Lyr 3, NOS(stock) Russian tube, and my Sony Z7's and I can't stop listening! Simply amazing The Z7's never sounded this good out of my Jotunheim balanced.

More after further listening. . .

 

[lystor]

Also - Are you running the monitors from the Jotunheim?

Yes.
Both Jotunheim and Focals have XLR and RCA. RCA works quite well.
I am not able to see the difference between them in A/B test (excluding sound level).

The Jotunheim puts out maybe 400mW at 250 ohms in SE mode. You would need to run balanced to get the full horsepower of the Jot, may not be feasible or cheap to convert the 1990s to balanced.

I think it will not be an issue because DT1990/DT1770 250 Ohm are very sensitive with their Tesla 2 technology. Sound level is almost the same as on DT990/770 80 Ohm.

 

[Wes S]

Well . . .this morning I just could not wait any longer, so I rolled in an RCA grey glass, just see if I could hear a difference from the NOS Russian. The RCA brought some warmth, with more mid bass, than sub bass and the highs were a bit more rolled off. The RCA is more euphonic, but I actually think I prefer the NOS Russian with my Z7's. The NOS Russian with my Z7's, had this amazing power, depth and separation with the blackest background I have heard. There was a realism with the NOS Russian, that I did not know, the Z7's were capable of. The Z7's always sounded a bit artificial with my Jotunheim. I am not sure that the NOS Russian is a better tube, but it just hits all the right spots, with the Z7's. Also, to note the amp is super quiet with both tubes, with not even the slightest hint of hum. This amp is a step up from anything I have heard, and I am loving it. I will report back, after some more listening with both tubes, and a few different headphones. I also have a KenRad and Silvania on the way.

 

[lystor]

What is the difference in sound between stock tubes (NOS 6NS8 and Tung-Sol 6SN7) on Lyr 3?

Thank you