Luxury & Precision (LP) Portable USB DAC/AMP W1 and W2
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Want to share some interesting new products, especially for those who are considering purchasing a small dongle like the Lotoo PAW S1.

Update: see post #43 for a first impression! :)

Update 2: see post #180 for English user manual and instructions.

Luxury & Precision (LP) is launching its Portable USB DAC/AMP W1 and W2; W1 has 1 DAC chip and W2 has 2. For some of you who may be hearing this brand for the first time, LP made their name by producing high-end R2R DAP P6.

Both devices come in two outputs: 3.5mm and 4.4mm. The 3.5mm output is also a SPDIF output, allowing it to be used purely as a DAC and connect with other AMPs.

What is insane about these two products is the crazily low noise levels and huge output power. I cannot post the link to the other forum, but if you are interested just google the product names and you will see the measurements. Long story short, based purely on the measurements, it outperforms many desktop devices... Of course, we will need to wait for the actual products to tell whether it sounds good or not.

Some data for its power level (the third party measured numbers rather than OEM-supplied numbers):
Balanced:
32Ω 235mw
Single-ended:
32Ω: 125mw

W1 retails for 199 USD and W2 retails for 299 USD. Both W1 and W2 are now ready for order! Their advertisements suggest that the prices already include two cables in the box: one USB C-to-C and one USB C-to-lightening.
 

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Its measurements are also good
Thanks!
I also have another updated information from Musicteck and LP. The W2 will launch first in the US - expected to ship later this month. The W1 will arrive early next year.
 
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Sharing some more pics of the W1/W2. The sound quality is said to be on part with their middle/higher-end DAP L4.

LP says follow-up firmware will include EQs specifically designed for certain IEMs; the first two will be for Xelento and Shure 846.
 

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I'm looking for a portable dac amp to use with my iphone, this L&P item seems to be a good solution. I also liked to have 4.4mm balanced because I want to buy a cable that has a balanced 4.4mm option, so it would be the right purchase.

I'll keep an eye on this dac amp. Thanks for the post and information.
 
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Can someone just confirm that there are two models launching. The W1 and W2. Does W1 still have a balanced output although it only has one DAC?

Just seen the HiFiGO blog post and it seemed to only feature one (the W1)
 
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Can someone just confirm that there are two models launching. The W1 and W2. Does W1 still have a balanced output although it only has one DAC?

Just seen the HiFiGO blog post and it seemed to only feature one (the W1)
Yes there are two models, and the W1 has both 3.5mm and 4.4mm output. The pics from the first post is for W1; W2 shares the exact same design.
 
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So the only difference between the two is the dual DAC. How does the W1 have a 4.4mm balanced output though🤔
You don’t need two chips to achieve balanced output. For example, Lotoo’s flagship DAP PAW Gold Touch only has one AKM 4497 chip, but it has both 3.5mm and 4.4mm output.

Two chips is just kind of a “luxury” such that each chip is dedicated to a single channel.

BTW, I think Hifigo is not LP’s authorized dealer in the US; Musicteck is. Better wait a bit for that.
 
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How's the volume control situation like? What are those buttons for and is the volume jump as unusably large as Tempotec's stuff?

After trying out many dongles, that stuff is important. Will get either W2 or Khadas Tone 2 Pro and then compare it with Musiland MU3X which I prefer to Sonata HD Pro despite the latter's better measurements.
 
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You don’t need two chips to achieve balanced output. For example, Lotoo’s flagship DAP PAW Gold Touch only has one AKM 4497 chip, but it has both 3.5mm and 4.4mm output.

Two chips is just kind of a “luxury” such that each chip is dedicated to a single channel.

BTW, I think Hifigo is not LP’s authorized dealer in the US; Musicteck is. Better wait a bit for that.
Honestly didn't know. Never looked at something that expensive 😂. I will be very interested how it compares to the earmen sparrow, which I'm also very interested in. They seem very similar,but the W2 has better power (and different DAC)
 
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How's the volume control situation like? What are those buttons for and is the volume jump as unusably large as Tempotec's stuff?

After trying out many dongles, that stuff is important. Will get either W2 or Khadas Tone 2 Pro and then compare it with Musiland MU3X which I prefer to Sonata HD Pro despite the latter's better measurements.
Have a look at the Earmen Sparrow. It's really similar to the W2 spec wise. And also has MQA if u are into that.
 
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How's the volume control situation like? What are those buttons for and is the volume jump as unusably large as Tempotec's stuff?

After trying out many dongles, that stuff is important. Will get either W2 or Khadas Tone 2 Pro and then compare it with Musiland MU3X which I prefer to Sonata HD Pro despite the latter's better measurements.
I believe the longer bar on the side is for volume control, and the shorter bar is for EQ adjustment. Not sure how sensitive/insensitive these buttons are. Will definitely test it and report when it launches. I will also keep an eye on the reviews from the first group of users in China.
 

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