[twister6]

Strange... So if I connect It to an external amp It will not make any sound at all?

Of course it works and makes sound Just that output of S1 is headphone output going through its own internal amplification stage, not a clean LO.

 

[wave0nl]

You only have the 3.5mm se & 4.4mm bal phone outs, no line out is what he means, I think

 

[crazywipe]

Of course it works and makes sound Just that output of S1 is headphone output going through its own internal amplification stage, not a clean LO.

Yes, this! lol
I was just wondering how bad it will be. Anyone tried an external amp + S1?

 

[sulfuriq]

Strange... So if I connect It to an external amp It will not make any sound at all?

It still produce sound if you are using 3.5mm output to 3.5mm input on AMP like Fiio A3 but Lotoo PAW S1 already has AMP in it. Better invest in Balanced Cable 4.4mm to take advantage of the 120mW output

 

[outofthebox]

So I jumped onto the PAW S1 bandwagon a few days back and I'm very happy with it. In comparable devices I was using the Sonata BHD earlier and this is several notches up in terms of features, build quality as well as sound quality. Enjoying MQA playback on it too.

 

[musicday]

So I jumped onto the PAW S1 bandwagon a few days back and I'm very happy with it. In comparable devices I was using the Sonata BHD earlier and this is several notches up in terms of features, build quality as well as sound quality. Enjoying MQA playback on it too.

Now you need to get the W2 also to have the cercle completed.

 

[Devodonaldson]

Yes, this! lol
I was just wondering how bad it will be. Anyone tried an external amp + S1?

Yes. You'll most likely run it at 70% to 80% volume to prevent clipping to your amp. Rear of the volume will occur at your amplifier. Not a problem

 

[outofthebox]

Now you need to get the W2 also to have the cercle completed.

oh yessir! have been drooling over it for quite some time in the W2 thread. I already like the characteristics of CS DACs and this one seems to be absolute SOTA in terms of performance & feature set. I do have a use case for the S/PDIF out too. It's definitely on my radar.

 

[jmwant]

any of you guys compared this to the khadas tone 2 pro? either get that or the s1. mostly mqa playback. was also looking at the L&P w2, but that doesn't have mqa support

I think the Tone 2 pro has a more powerful amp section.
https://headfonics.com/khadas-tone2-pro-review/

 

[outofthebox]

I think the Tone 2 pro has a more powerful amp section.

I was also in this boat a while back. IMO the Tone 2 Pro, whilst very tempting, is more towards desktop amp/DACs or portable gear from the past decade, due to it's form factor. It's better to compare it with gear like the Ifi Zen DAC.

The USP of it though is that it has full MQA hardware - decoder plus renderer, and a very unique RCA connector set for balanced line out and AES/EBU in. Last but not the least, it has quite a few user tweak-able filters, in addition to gobs of power and the option to use a high quality external PSU.

I haven't come across this combo of features in small form factor DACs yet. Not a big fan of it's UI though.

 

[sulfuriq]

Just got back my iFi Hip DAC after send for RMA (they replaced it with a new unit). Compare these two SQ (PAW S1 vs Hip DAC), PAW S1 is more appealing to me plus I don't have to worry 2 batteries while using Hip DAC, since my Samsung Note 3 is using 10,000mah I'm pretty sure it can outlast Hip DAC. To get volume match with Hip DAC 5.3C Firmware, it's about 80 on PAW S1 with High Gain both using 4.4mm Balanced. Simply said that Lotoo PAW S1 make portable easy and less hassle

 

[Ciuvn]

Hello there! I wonder is there anyone who tried to use 2 port 3.5 & 4.4 together at the same time? is it possible?

 

[ClieOS]

Hello there! I wonder is there anyone who tried to use 2 port 3.5 & 4.4 together at the same time? is it possible?

3.5mm output will be automatically cut off when 4.4mm socket is plugged in.

 

[outofthebox]

Hello there! I wonder is there anyone who tried to use 2 port 3.5 & 4.4 together at the same time? is it possible?

From page 20 of owner manual ...

 

[GiullianSN]

Hello Everyone! Just got onboard the Paw S1 train and this little thing sounds amazing. way better than my other Fiio ones.

I can see people wanting more power out of the S1 and I am here trying to find a way to make it less loud.

Listening to 4.4mm on volume 1 and is still freaking loud.

Any tips on how to make the best of it is welcome.