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Jun 27, 2020 at 2:05 PM Post #481 of 2,329
jeffri said:
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It's perfect with my U12, there is no hiss that I could tell so far, so I'm super happy. Used with Nintendo Switch as well and works great.

However, pairing it with Ether 2 is pushing it a bit too much. The volume was loud enough at 90+ high gain, but it started to distort when pushing to 98+, so there isn't much of headroom here. While loudness is fine, it is also evident that it doesn't have the power to push Ether 2 properly, causing it to sounds slightly thinny. The headphones preset was able to restore some of thickness back though, but bass is still not satisfactory.

Of course, pushing a planar magnetic like that is a tall order and not something this little dongle is designed for. I think it still would be useful to note this, in case someone was wondering how it goes pushing hard to drive headphones. :)
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The Q1 looks so cool beside the S1, dare I say cute?
 
Jun 27, 2020 at 5:05 PM Post #482 of 2,329
abitdeef said:
The Q1 looks so cool beside the S1, dare I say cute?
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It's nice little DAP and would power the S1 just fine. As a bonus, you can even stream LDAC from phone to Q1 then output to S1, although that introduces a bit of delay in audio sync. Not good for video, but certainly can work for music streaming from phone. That would be handy when the phone need a charge. :)
 
Jun 27, 2020 at 5:30 PM Post #484 of 2,329
jeffri said:
It's nice little DAP and would power the S1 just fine. As a bonus, you can even stream LDAC from phone to Q1 then output to S1, although that introduces a bit of delay in audio sync. Not good for video, but certainly can work for music streaming from phone. That would be handy when the phone need a charge. :)
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Yep I have the r3pro (I like small daps) and it powers the S1 fine. The Q1 looks even smaller :) I like having a small dap for exercise, yard, work, chores that does BT.

Might have to demo a Q1.

Actually ordered one to pair with my S1 and use for Bluetooth use. The compact size and battery life is appealing to me.
 
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Jun 27, 2020 at 5:32 PM Post #485 of 2,329
musicday said:
Very good sound for a very good price as follows : Blon BL03 with 16 core copper 4.4 mm balanced with S1.
Powerful sound, realistic left and right separation with wide soundstage and powerful deep bass especially for movies.
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The blo3 are fantastic. I couldn't get a good fit but the sound for the price is just crazy. I bet they do sound nice with S1.

Lots of great sounding stuff for cheap lately- btr5, hiby r3pro,Q1, and I heard even the tiny bare bones fiio m3pro (guess everyone's doing pro's ha ha) punches way above it's price soundwise. Although the thing that surprised me about the S1 is the precise separation and control of timing of attacks and decays and the holographic sound stage that's usually reserved for much more $$ gear.
 
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Jun 28, 2020 at 9:26 PM Post #489 of 2,329
ade_hall said:
Appears you can't revert to an older firmware
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That’s a shame but not really a surprise as a lot of consumer devices have a tough time going backwards in FW revs... a good design practice is to maintain on the device a backup version of the stock FW so in the event of a disastrous upgrade (either bad FW or failed upgrade attempt) the device can be reset to stock. Complicates the design a bit and requires extra storage. If the S1 supports revert to stock FW you can always do that and then update to what version you want. But I don’t know if this is supported.
 
Jun 29, 2020 at 4:54 PM Post #490 of 2,329
Just got my PAW S1, and I'm impressed so far. I played an hour or so with the stock 1.0.0.4 firmware on my iPhone XS with the Lotoo USB-C Lighting cable on WiFi, and it was just fine into my Solaris 2020s. No hiss on low gain at 10-15 volume, and no EMI problems that I could detect. I just updated to 1.0.0.7 via my MBP and the included USB-C cable, and am now playing music through it (just a simple unplug and re-plug to get it back to DAC mode on the MBP). This doesn't sound quite as full and dynamic as my iBasso DX220 with the AMP-8 or AMP-9, but it's 90% as good, it's tiny, and it's about 20% of the cost. That's a hard value proposition to pass up. Once they add MQA, I may have to consider selling off the DX220...
 
Jun 30, 2020 at 12:32 AM Post #492 of 2,329
Another Q1-S1 combo :) little Q1 pairs nice with S1. Thanx Jeffri

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Jun 30, 2020 at 4:36 AM Post #493 of 2,329
Just chiming in with an alternative cable suggestion!

xDuoo's Apple Lightning to USB C OTG cable works perfectly with my iPhone SE (old) and PAW S1. The cable is braided, thick, appears pretty tough. Shipping to Korea took about two weeks.

https://www.xduoo.net/product/type-c-to-lighting-cable/

(not affiliated with xDuoo in any way)

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Jun 30, 2020 at 4:53 AM Post #494 of 2,329
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