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So all of us on the list will recieve both test cables?
Any ideas on pricing yet Steven?
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I still have 2 more ideas to try before deciding which are the best, but I will send at least 2, probably 3 around for people to listen to. Plus I want to burn them in a bit first.
Still going to be a little while.
No idea on price yet but the soldering inside these connectors is a pain in the butt! Especially with the heavier wire like Jena.
I do have some very thin silver wire coming to try.
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Build quality: it's a StevenKelby, of course its gonna be good, very very well built cables, look so hot!
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Thanks Jai
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FMT, does microphonic much worse compare to a LW stock cable ? and how's treble on Cryo cable.
Is it 20 AWG or 22 AWG or smaller wire?
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The microphonics are worse than standard with these 2 yes.
The silver cable is stiffer and I had to cover in nylon to kill the microphonics, which makes it fine. The bits going from the LWs to the Y split are still microphonic though.
Wearing them over your ears gets rid of most of the microphonics from the Jena wire, which isn't too bad to start with, but still worse than stock.
The thing I've discovered is that with the standard wires used in most buds/IEMs, especially with all the cheap Senn buds I’ve been reterminating (to 2.5mm for a Deaf SA – long story), the strands of wire are actually wrapped around, and sometimes intertwined with, some threads of something which is very strong and non conductive, maybe Kevlar or kapton or something. It doesn’t burn easy and is hard to cut. This stuff gives the cheap cables their strength, there is very little conductor in it. The thread stuff is very flexible, and with little wire in the cable and soft rubber insulation, the whole thing is very supple but doesn’t sound great.
The Jena wire is very supple and soft considering it’s size, but they don’t and won’t (I asked) make anything smaller than 22G.
The high end wires are very pure and sound great, but even the thinnest gages are stiffer and microphonic as they are all metal, stranded or not. So it doesn’t seem possible to find a wire as soft and supple as the stock one but still with a high-end sound quality.
That’s my theory anyway.
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Do you know the guage of the silver, FMT? Thinnest is generally best SQ after burn in (but with portable equipment durability becomes a factor ).
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The silver in that black cable is 26G. I have some 30 and 33G coming too.
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Steven! How about a blend of the silver and Jena cables? =)
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That's certainly in my plans