Little Dot Tube Amps: Vacuum Tube Rolling Guide
Dec 30, 2014 at 5:12 PM Post #8,791 of 13,432
   
Warmth is a personal preference or a signature matching criteria. If you'd asked me whether I favour a very warm amp over a rather neutral amp, I would always decide for the neutral amp. However, warmth does not reflect sound quality, as for example imaging or dynamics and this is important to consider also. If you have both amps at hand, I would be very curious about an A/B comparison with the LD using some nice drivers and - say 5687 power tubes.

I only mentioned the DV range as Shrew was asking about warm sounding amps and the DV/LF range is notoriously warm/tubey sounding and the 336 is in the same price range as the LD MKIII. I have never owned the 336 but I do own the LF 339 and it is a warm sounding amp, especially in comparison to the LD MKIII. I personally like warm sounding amps and yes warmth does not effect sound quality. The LF is warmer yet its sound quality, imaging and dynamics far surpass the LD in every way even when using c3g's and 5687's, though this should be expected as they are in completely different price brackets.
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 5:18 PM Post #8,792 of 13,432
  The LF is warmer yet its sound quality, imaging and dynamics far surpass the LD in every way even when using c3g's and 5687's, though this should be expected as they are in completely different price brackets.

 
That's fair enough.
 
 
Enjoying the Siemens (Raytheon) 5687WB + C3GS at the moment. Good bass and wet, very detailed sound.
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 10:00 PM Post #8,793 of 13,432
I think I would agree that the Crack and DarkVoice 336SE are very likely better than a Little Dot III, and the difference is largely due to the use of the 6AS7 as a power tube. However, I still maintain that of the three, the LD is the best value for the least amount of money.
 
The LD III is $189 plus $45 shipping (to the US) for a total of $234, directly from the manufacturer. This includes one of the best warranty and support programs in the business.
 
The Crack is $279 plus $16 shipping (to Ohio, USA) for a total of $295, directly from the manufacturer. However, many believe that the Speedball upgrade is essential, $115, which would bring the total to $410. And this price includes a decent parts warranty and support. However, since this is a kit, obviously they cannot warranty the assembly, which means, if it doesn't work, it's largely your problem.
 
As best I can tell, the DarkVoice cannot be purchased directly from the manufacturer. In fact, I cannot find a manufacturer's web site for this amp, which leads me to wonder who is the actual manufacturer? And further, this leads me to wonder if there is a "manufacturer's warranty"? If not, the only recourse would be to send it back to the seller. A quick search reveals prices ranging from $263 to $299, all with free shipping (to the US).
 
While the DV costs more than the LD, the price might be close enough to be comparable. However, the warranty issue is something to consider. Given the LD's superb warranty, the DV might be a bit of a gamble, but yes, I think the DV is a better amp, if one is willing to accept more risk.
 
For someone who is comfortable with a soldering iron, the Crack might be the way to go. But frankly, I wouldn't purchase it without the Speedball option, and at $410, the price is close to the cost of the Elise, which is an even better amp, I believe.
 
So if one wants to spend something around $200, the LD III is very hard to beat in my opinion. :)
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 10:57 PM Post #8,794 of 13,432
The Darkvoice/La Figaro 336 is no longer in production however (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DarkVoice-336SE-Headphone-Tube-Amplifier-neat-technics-/260695457691?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item3cb2a8ff9b) who still sell it provide a 1 year manufacturer warranty as can be seen in the description which is longer than the LD's at 3 months. Both are arguably the best bang for buck tube amplifiers out there just depends on what preferences you have. For us in the UK the Crack isn't really an option unless wanting to pay a lot for shipping and import duties etc.
 
Dec 30, 2014 at 11:28 PM Post #8,795 of 13,432
  The Darkvoice/La Figaro 336 is no longer in production however (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DarkVoice-336SE-Headphone-Tube-Amplifier-neat-technics-/260695457691?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item3cb2a8ff9b) who still sell it provide a 1 year manufacturer warranty as can be seen in the description which is longer than the LD's at 3 months.

 
Within 3 months, LD will reimburse shipping costs, so there is absolutely no cost. After that, for as long as you own your LD, repair/labor/parts are always free - the only thing you are responsible for is shipping costs.
 
As I said before, this is one of the best warranties in the business. :)
 
http://www.littledot.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=442&sid=5c57ce139be89c76c139a0ab68ca22bb
 
Dec 31, 2014 at 2:12 AM Post #8,796 of 13,432
   
Within 3 months, LD will reimburse shipping costs, so there is absolutely no cost. After that, for as long as you own your LD, repair/labor/parts are always free - the only thing you are responsible for is shipping costs.
 
As I said before, this is one of the best warranties in the business. :)
 
http://www.littledot.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=442&sid=5c57ce139be89c76c139a0ab68ca22bb

My bad missed the for as long as you own it part :D
 
Jan 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM Post #8,798 of 13,432
Same too you my friend 
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Jan 2, 2015 at 3:32 AM Post #8,799 of 13,432
Hey gang, hope everyone's having a great start to the new year.  Had a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to here online past a link to a product that is no longer manufactured, and that is a 6SN7 to 6N6P adapter.  Anyone know where to find one, or is more only choice to make my own?  Thanks.
 
edit:  I think I figured it out on ebay, but not sure… is this them?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261667818185
 
Jan 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM Post #8,801 of 13,432
  Does anyone know the current capability of the 20v winding on the transformer in the 1+? The 408s needs 50mA so it is at least that, wondering if it could do 125mA for a C3M....

 
I routinely run the C3m in my LD 1+, and it sounds great! :)
 
Edit: I read too fast....  I have used the C3g, not the C3m....  My assumption is that the LD can power the C3m at 20V, but as I haven't tried it, I can't be sure....
 
Jan 2, 2015 at 8:32 AM Post #8,802 of 13,432
  Hey gang, hope everyone's having a great start to the new year.  Had a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to here online past a link to a product that is no longer manufactured, and that is a 6SN7 to 6N6P adapter.  Anyone know where to find one, or is more only choice to make my own?  Thanks.
 
edit:  I think I figured it out on ebay, but not sure… is this them?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261667818185

 
I assume you want to use 6SN7s as power tubes in your LD? 
 
The 6N6P has the same pinout as a 6DJ8/6922/EC88 and 6CG7.
 
So this will work:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-6SN7-to-ECC88-Vacuum-tube-socket-adapter-socket-converter-/291181600224?
 
Jan 2, 2015 at 9:03 AM Post #8,803 of 13,432
 
  Hey gang, hope everyone's having a great start to the new year.  Had a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to here online past a link to a product that is no longer manufactured, and that is a 6SN7 to 6N6P adapter.  Anyone know where to find one, or is more only choice to make my own?  Thanks.
 
edit:  I think I figured it out on ebay, but not sure… is this them?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261667818185

 
I assume you want to use 6SN7s as power tubes in your LD? 
 
The 6N6P has the same pinout as a 6DJ8/6922/EC88 and 6CG7.
 
So this will work:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-6SN7-to-ECC88-Vacuum-tube-socket-adapter-socket-converter-/291181600224?

I tried this link with Google and it doesnt work but if you use Internet Explorer it works
 
Jan 2, 2015 at 9:32 AM Post #8,804 of 13,432
Re 6SN7 to 6N6P adapter: As per page 585 table, you can also use this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-6SN7-6H8C-6N8P-CV1988-B65-VT231-TO-ECC88-6922-6DJ8-6N6-6N11-tube-adapter-/201083508552?rmvSB=true
 
This link also shows you how the adapter should look like. Apparently, this seller only takes orders from the 8th of January on.
 
Jan 2, 2015 at 9:56 AM Post #8,805 of 13,432
Have been using Musicbee for playing my music files. One feature that I like I haven't been able to find - maybe somebody can tell me how to find it:
 
When playing a song, at times I want to go back to hear a certain passage, but I can only hear it again by playing the entire song on Musicbee. (This feature is easily found on iTunes, where a cursor moves along a bar indicating how long you played a tune, and how much is left. You just put your mouse cursor on it and move it forward or backward.)
 
On my Musicbee screen I can only see time elapsed and remaining, but cannot find a place to move up or down in time.
 

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