Light Harmonic GEEK
Mar 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM Post #481 of 1,658
Hi all,
 
So I suppose I should probably go back and read all 30+ pages, but I was hoping maybe i could just ask here and not get too much guff.  I just learned about this device and it seems to have some nice features.  I'm curious about two things:
 
1 - Will the base model (the 450mW) be sufficient to drive the AKG Q701?  I believe they're around 50-60 ohms but they're notoriously hard to drive.
 
2 - When can we expect normal (non Kickstarter) pre-orders to ship?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 1:01 PM Post #482 of 1,658
Hi all,

So I suppose I should probably go back and read all 30+ pages, but I was hoping maybe i could just ask here and not get too much guff.  I just learned about this device and it seems to have some nice features.  I'm curious about two things:

1 - Will the base model (the 450mW) be sufficient to drive the AKG Q701?  I believe they're around 50-60 ohms but they're notoriously hard to drive.

2 - When can we expect normal (non Kickstarter) pre-orders to ship?

Thanks in advance!

P = V^2 / R
0.450 W = VRMS^2 / 16 Ω
sqrt(7.2 VRMS^2) = VRMS = 2.68 V

Using the measurements from Innerfidelity for the Q 701:
P = 2.68VRMS^2 / 60 Ω
P = 0.12 W = 120 mW

P = sensitivity * 2^X
120 mW = 1.68 mW * 2^X
log(71.42) / log(2) = X = 6.15
Max dB SPL = 90 dB SPL + 3 dB SPL * X = 90 dB SPL + 3 dB SPL * 6.15 = 108.4 dB SPL


That should be sufficiently loud based on the voltage specification, but the amp may be current limited, so it depends on how much current the Geek Out's amp can put out.
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM Post #484 of 1,658
So... does it live up to the hype?

I think we'll have to wait for more units to get shipped out. I'm eager to compare it to the ODAC and O2 since those are my references for performance/price. Hopefully the Geek 1000 don't get as warm as the Schiit products...those are a bit too warm for my liking. Bah, I keep wanting to call it the Super Duper Geek Out since that was the original name in the campaign; it's so much easier to remember. >.>
 
Mar 26, 2014 at 10:26 PM Post #488 of 1,658
Can the base Geek 450 drive the HD800's?
Thanks.

You can plug in numbers for the HD800 into the equations I posted 6 posts up. In short, yeah it looks like it based on what we know about the Geek Out 450. In reality though, we don't really know with the lack of impressions so far.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800.pdf
 
Mar 27, 2014 at 12:18 AM Post #490 of 1,658
Can the base Geek 450 drive the HD800's?
Thanks.

It should.  I told Larry that I wanted to use both HD800 and IEMs and he said the 450 would be the best bet as long as I didn't expect to blast my music.  The Super would have more headroom, but anything above the base model is not recommended if you plan to use IEMs or very sensitive headphones.
 
Mar 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM Post #491 of 1,658
  It should.  I told Larry that I wanted to use both HD800 and IEMs and he said the 450 would be the best bet as long as I didn't expect to blast my music.  The Super would have more headroom, but anything above the base model is not recommended if you plan to use IEMs or very sensitive headphones.

hey everybody!
 
Man I'm sick today - so I'll be in bed all-day I suspect, but wanted to share our review (me and Scot Hull at Part-Time Audiophile) of the Geek out 1000!
 
HERE'S THE LINK
 
Hope you dig it!!
 

 
Mar 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM Post #492 of 1,658
LH should put one sample to Headfonia, seriously interesting 
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Mar 30, 2014 at 5:49 PM Post #493 of 1,658
I just ordered the 450 for 199 as I will only use iem's with it.  Aside from the amp I assume everything else and the sq should be the same?  I know that lh is behind in getting orders out any idea how long before they get caught up?
 
Mar 30, 2014 at 6:21 PM Post #494 of 1,658
Hope you know they are spinning up a Geek Out 100 with lower power for IEMs soon.
Betas might go out in a couple weeks.
 
Mar 30, 2014 at 6:43 PM Post #495 of 1,658
Larry just confirmed the list of beta testers for the GO 100 and I'm among them. Once I have the unit I'll be able to compare it side by side with a Dragonfly and my E12. To test I'm going to be using my 1964-Q primarily, but will also use my A151 and S2 to get a more solid feel about how the GO 100 does for IEMs. I've read that the 450 works well with IEM, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that the 100 is an even better match with sensitive models.
 
Edit: I'll report here what I can; within the requirements of any potential non-disclosure agreements, of course.
 

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