It was in 2015 at a meet in the bay area and I managed to get the their booth just before finishing. When I asked when is the Pulse going to ship as it was already over schedule Gavin hastily replied...soon just before setting off in a rush. Front his body language I could tell something was off. I didn't get the confidence he believed in his product the way Dan from mr. Speakers did when I spoke to him.
I wasn't proven wrong. Hopefully we can do obscenities on their graves someday.
Thanks for the account of your experience with Gavin. I can see it wouldn't have inspired confidence, to say the least.