On the contrary. I think the V20 is great. It sounds better than any of the dedicated personal music players I've used in the past. The ES9218 DAC in this phone is seriously one of the best I've heard in a while. I was just making a dig at rockstar2005 and jagwap's banter a few posts up. Go read them and you'll see what I mean... *cough*
EDIT: just to add, I think this phone sounds that good that I've stopped carrying a phone and a Pono player around. I'm just using the phone now paired with either a pair of BeO H3s (for when I wear a beanie) when I can avoid it, or some quite flat 60 ohm Portapros SE's, or 48 ohm MDR-1As.
On the contrary. I think the V20 is great. It sounds better than any of the dedicated personal music players I've used in the past. The ES9218 DAC in this phone is seriously one of the best I've heard in a while. I was just making a dig at rockstar2005 and jagwap's banter a few posts up. Go read them and you'll see what I mean... *cough*
EDIT: just to add, I think this phone sounds that good that I've stopped carrying a phone and a Pono player around. I'm just using the phone now paired with either a pair of BeO H3s (for when I wear a beanie) when I can avoid it, or some quite flat 60 ohm Portapros SE's, or 48 ohm MDR-1As.
I use Westone ES60. It hissed with FiiO x7. Cowon and AK300 are both pitch black. I have the Ifi iematch coming this weekend. Will get you updated. It hisses with airplane mode everything turned off. It's not that bad.
Can vouch for the iFi iEMatch. Fixed the only downside to my Vorzuge amp, hissing that intensifies when the bass/treble switches were on. $50 dongle versus an issue that a $500 piece of boutique equipment shouldn't have.
My 6P died today, third unit in seven months... Rogue charger possibly. I bought a V20 in anger since I needed a phone. Sound wise is not bad but a definite step down from DP-X1. Lacks the authority and power on the Onkyo DAP but good thing is that it brightens both R2PROs and PM-3s since it is tuned to be sparkler than DP-X1. Keeping my DAP though.
The person 6P came back to life after setting up the new phone. Pressed all buttons for hundreds of times with no effect over a day and nothing. Weird.
Hi, a question. i understand that your headhpones' impedance is less than 50ohms. did you use any dongle to trigger high impedance mode\aux mode, or did you listen on your v20 on normal mode?
My 6P died today, third unit in seven months... Rogue charger possibly. I bought a V20 in anger since I needed a phone. Sound wise is not bad but a definite step down from DP-X1. Lacks the authority and power on the Onkyo DAP but good thing is that it brightens both R2PROs and PM-3s since it is tuned to be sparkler than DP-X1. Keeping my DAP though.
The person 6P came back to life after setting up the new phone. Pressed all buttons for hundreds of times with no effect over a day and nothing. Weird.
I too have both the DP-X1 and V20 (using SE846 and IE 800) and agree with you. The DP-X1 is noticeably more detailed and has better/cleaner separation, but not by a far margin TBH. I wouldn't scoff at someone wanting to use the V20 as their DD, it's great. In fact, single-ended, the V20 is livelier than the DP-X1. But once you do balanced, the DP-X1 wins hands down.
loudness = sensitivity * P = sensitivity * V * I = sensitivity * V * V / R
for 16~25ohm resistance range, we can roughly assume the voltage swing V is the same.
so W60 is (116-100)db / (25/16)ohm = 14db louder than M6Pro, which is a lot.
The T-Mobile V20 came with a mail in offer for the H3 headphones. I got my pair after a couple weeks if waiting. But it's true, they don't sound that good and if I had paid retail price for them would be disappointed. My Portapros sound much better.
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