[warrior1975]

@dungden, I have a friend that orderes the Korean version, I'll ask him. I'm sure Whitigir will answer you. No worries, your English is fine my friend.

yoyorast10 I dont see this phone ending daps. I still want a standalone, as I'm sure others do as well. I will say, I have no need as the V10 satisfies me. I just want one. I have almost no doubt, as our phone's audio performance increases, fewer and fewer daps will be sold.

 

[yoyorast10]

@dungden, I have a friend that orderes the Korean version, I'll ask him. I'm sure Whitigir will answer you. No worries, your English is fine my friend.

@yoyorast10 I dont see this phone ending daps. I still want a standalone, as I'm sure others do as well. I will say, I have no need as the V10 satisfies me. I just want one. I have almost no doubt, as our phone's audio performance increases, fewer and fewer daps will be sold.

 
DAPs just seem like huge rip offs compared to this.

 

[jedthehumanoid]

   
DAPs just seem like huge rip offs compared to this.

 
I tend to agree with you but then this is a web forum where it is perfectly normal to have 10 or 20 sets of headphones/iems/ciems that cost anywhere from $50 to $1000 (or more) each. 

 

[warrior1975]

I agree, on both parts for the most part.

As far as daps being a rip off, not all of them. Fiio offers wonderful daps that are priced accordingly. The new m series as a DAP for $59 I believe. The X1 is $99. I won't touch AK, but again, we are talking about luxuries (wants) not needs. If one feels it's a ripoff, buy this beautiful phone and call it a day.

Also understand the economies of scale, what it costs Apple, Sammy, et al., won't cost companies like Fiio, Ibasso, or even AK.

 

[gr8soundz]

how many of u who own the v10 have daps and can you tell me if you prefer the v10 over ur dap and which dap you have

 
I have several daps (R10, AK Jr., Ponoplayer) and all sound very good (V10 included) but the differences are fairly subtle.
 
Prefer the V10 over the Pono (single ended) with certain headphones but the R10 sounds best and has the most power while I like the AK Jr's smaller size and hardware buttons.
 
So its a toss up but I no longer need to carry the other daps away from home. The V10 can do the job just as well.
 
Had I gotten the V10 first, doubt I would've bought all the others.

 

[warrior1975]

I have to say, the more I listen the more I'm inclined to not purchase another DAP. I know I won't get basshead levels of bass like I'm getting, but even without that, the phone founds pretty damn good. I love electronics, but I'm starting to think, purchasing a DAP will be a complete waste of money, I'm that happy.

 

[gr8soundz]

I have to say, the more I listen the more I'm inclined to not purchase another DAP. I know I won't get basshead levels of bass like I'm getting, but even without that, the phone founds pretty damn good. I love electronics, but I'm starting to think, purchasing a DAP will be a complete waste of money, I'm that happy.

 
Shhh......
 
I gotta sell all my other daps now. If others start thinking like that I'll never be able to get rid of them.
 

 

[Sound Eq]

I have to say, the more I listen the more I'm inclined to not purchase another DAP. I know I won't get basshead levels of bass like I'm getting, but even without that, the phone founds pretty damn good. I love electronics, but I'm starting to think, purchasing a DAP will be a complete waste of money, I'm that happy.

will u be able to resist the temptation to buy the new onkyo

 

[gr8soundz]

  will u be able to resist the temptation to buy the new onkyo

 
Tempting dual-dac and vol/nav controls but, unless the Onkyo's balanced mode sounds better than Pono balanced, probably not.
 

 

[jamor]

I'm starting to agree now that they should boost the amp software a little bit for the 32 ohm.  Most of my music I don't max out on 32 ohm so I can't complain but there are a few quietly mastered albums that need an extra notch.

 

[warrior1975]

will u be able to resist the temptation to buy the new onkyo

Probably not. I love my toys. I just don't foresee me using it. Worst case, I'll buy and sell like I normally do. I know you'd love it with V4A since we have similar tastes bro. I wish you could experience my setup. It's absolutely ridiculous.

jamor- I've been saying that, it needs more power, well, power that we can use. I'd prefer to be able to control my own gain.

 

[Sound Eq]

Probably not. I love my toys. I just don't foresee me using it. Worst case, I'll buy and sell like I normally do. I know you'd love it with V4A since we have similar tastes bro. I wish you could experience my setup. It's absolutely ridiculous.

@jamor- I've been saying that, it needs more power, well, power that we can use. I'd prefer to be able to control my own gain.

what u mean by control ur own gain ??? i did not understand this

 

[jamor]

@jamor- I've been saying that, it needs more power, well, power that we can use. I'd prefer to be able to control my own gain.

 
True true.
 
Btw listening to Lossless Live Phish via V10 & Philips X2 is so amazing.  Can't take my headphones off.  

   

 

[warrior1975]

Nice, glad you are enjoying it!!

Played my V10, Cayin C5, viper (of course) for a couple of my employees... Jaws dropped. Nuff said!!

 

[ThomasHK]

+1, was to tired yesterday

Thanks for clarifying.

The point is still that the DAC in the phone doesn't do the decoding when using BT device's.

Correct. I would go even further: unless the OEMs have ****ed up the BT audio settings on the device, every source device will sound identical (apple to apple comparison, so SBC to SBC, AAC to AAC, APTx to APTx) and the sound quality is entirely determined by the receiving device.