[Vlad Koon]

CUT THE EAR HOOKS OFF.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/let...ions-discussion.961404/page-114#post-17968936

 

[BS5711]

One of these days I’ll try the S12 with SpinFit W1 ear tips. Someone here wrote in their review that S12 + W1 = the best pair.

There is no "best" when it comes to tips for any IEM, best is what works for your ear anatomy and other preferences and that will vary a lot across people.

Take any specific recommendation with a huge pinch of salt, I have tried tips that others have recommended for specific IEM which were a dismal failure for me.

That said, to help a solid fit, the Divinus Velvet might be worth trying. The Penon Liqueur also but they are sticky which can be a nuisance on some IEM but not others, at least for me, your mileage may vary.

 

[Vlad Koon]

SpinFits are average in stickiness (W1) + their stem rotates, adapting to the anatomy of each specific ear canal. That's why I want to try them.

 

[BS5711]

Decided against further conversation

 

[Eiffel]

Larger tips are uncomfortable and do not change the sound for the better. Here only bi- or tri-flange ear tips can help, but I can’t stand them! The problem is the short sound tube. The problem could have been solved if LetShuoer had made a longer sound tube or not formed the heat shrink so aggressively.

Now, it seems that I have completely opposite problem than yours.

I feel the tube is too long, and the nozzle diameter is too big so they don't get in my ear very well - they stay at few mm outside my inner ear.
Luckily the hook radius helps me to keep them in place, using small memory foam tips.

Unfortunately everybody has different ears. No producer can make an in-ear that fit everybody ears. We have to adapt.

Or... buy some custom earphones - some are making these too, based on a mold of your ear.

 

[rudbeard]

Such aggressively formed heat shrinks constantly pull the shells out of my ears. My brother has a similar problem.

I disagree with your impressions on the tuning of the S12, but I agree, the S12Pro cables do pull out of my ears. I can't use spinfits or foams with the modular cable from the S12 Pro. I actually would prefer a lower price on the S12 Pro and the cable from the S12OG. The modularity isn't of that much use to me, the connection is weaker than a 3.5mm pull disconnect force. The earhook curve, more rigid cable, and modularity actually makes me dislike the modular cable.

That radius is too loose

I agree with that, I tried a boom mic cable. that had the same radius and it didn't work with the OG S12 because the curve was too large.

 

[kalibri]

Wow some people will bitch and moan about everything ...

 

[BS5711]

I have been listening with my other few IEM in rotation over the last week locking down the ear tips that give me the best balance of sound quality and all day comfort. Been messing with cables a bit also, for comfort and aesthetic considerations.

Tonight, after settling on my set up with the others a few hours ago, I had a listen to a few tracks with my S12 Pro with the stock cable plugged into a modest ddhifi TC44A plugged into the same iPhone 15 Pro that I am browsing Head Fi and typing this on as I listen.

The other IEM I have in my rotation retail at between around 6 and nearly 14 times what I paid for the S12 Pro.

My point of all that was to say how ridiculously good the $135 S12 Pro are. They are a really lovely listen and to my ear frankly give up very little in real world music enjoyment to any of the others in my small collection and if considering price into the equation they are crazy good value for money.

 

[kalibri]

My point of all that was to say how ridiculously good the $135 S12 Pro are. They are a really lovely listen and to my ear frankly give up very little in real world music enjoyment to any of the others in my small collection and if considering price into the equation they are crazy good value for money.

I was obsessed with the OG S12 back when it came out. I bought it blindly and I just couldn't put it down, even though I have 150+ IEMs and quite a few $1k+ ones.
So when the S12 Pro went on sale I got one for about $106, just to add to my collection.

Everyone should own one.

 

[LETSHUOER Support]

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/let...ions-discussion.961404/page-114#post-17968936

We have seen people with different ears, and have different sizes throughout different products. The Tape Pro, for example, has too big of an ear loop for our model so we had to heat it up and shrink the shape a little bit for the as seen in the image attached below that came from our website. In this case, the "very aggressive" ear hook shape would work perfectly for her.

As for memory wire inside of the earhook, we had this discussion in September last year, and our lead engineer / founder told us that the life span of memory wire is relatively short and would create more after sale problem. We could create this cable, yes, but there is a chance that we will have to shorten the warranty period on the cable due to normal wear and tear.

Last point on condensation, I will have to get back to you on this since I don't have a perfect answer at the moment. Thanks.

 

[Old_Snake]

We have seen people with different ears, and have different sizes throughout different products. The Tape Pro, for example, has too big of an ear loop for our model so we had to heat it up and shrink the shape a little bit for the as seen in the image attached below that came from our website. In this case, the "very aggressive" ear hook shape would work perfectly for her.

As for memory wire inside of the earhook, we had this discussion in September last year, and our lead engineer / founder told us that the life span of memory wire is relatively short and would create more after sale problem. We could create this cable, yes, but there is a chance that we will have to shorten the warranty period on the cable due to normal wear and tear.

Last point on condensation, I will have to get back to you on this since I don't have a perfect answer at the moment. Thanks.

How about using an angled connector?

 

[LETSHUOER Support]

How about using an angled connector?

We have that for EJ07M and EJ09. Some people has no complain with it, some doesn't like the design. It is quite a personal thing depending your ear anatomy honestly.

 

[Old_Snake]

We have that for EJ07M and EJ09. Some people has no complain with it, some doesn't like the design. It is quite a personal thing depending your ear anatomy honestly.

Do you guys perform reshells or CIEM builds of S12-S15?

 

[BS5711]

Commenting to bump up the list hoping that the very hard to please Vlad sees that Letshuoer replied to his criticisms.

 

[LETSHUOER Support]

Do you guys perform reshells or CIEM builds of S12-S15?

The only sets we do reshell for are EJ07M and up.