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Dec 30, 2015 at 2:52 AM Post #21,751 of 29,661
That's why I always loved Vital Remains. Tracks on Icons of Evil, despite being dizzying with density, have memorable parts, melodies you can follow, they sound like something.

 
I only got three Vital Remains CDs:
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Horrors_of_Hell/107002
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Dechristianize/16895
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Icons_of_Evil/145416
 
Dechristianize is easily my favorite, if only for the title track. Don't even remember what Icons Of Evil sounds like 'cause I haven't heard it in so long. If it's memorable, maybe I won't forget it again next time.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 4:02 AM Post #21,752 of 29,661
Can you recommend some Motorhead songs other than Aces of Spades? To be honest I don't know of any other

[VIDEO]. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ2HIr6Os0M [/VIDEO]

I'm more of a "Lemmy in Hawkwind fan". His guitar style chord bass and vocals were something for the three short years he was in Hawkwind, 1972-1975.

Still modern Leemy is Motorhead's "The World Is Yours" from 2010. Maybe someone can recommend more Motörhead?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 4:29 AM Post #21,753 of 29,661
TBH I'm not a big Nile fan. Actually I don't like the majority of tech death just because it so often is virtuosity over songwriting (lookin' at you as well, prog). But Nile's had some killer albums in the past 5-10 years and I just can't deny that. They've also had some duds and some terribly recorded albums.

A big reason I don't like a lot of tech death is the drummer is put SO front and center, volume double the rest of the band. I mentioned Hour of Penance because I loved Paradogma, but then on Sedition they decided to have the kick drum be the loudest instrument and then have it playing double kicks nonstop for nearly the whole thing. Don't get me wrong, I love double bass, I love blast beats, but even in bands like Dark Funeral and Belphegor where there's not much variation in the drums they had the sense not to crank it up twice as loud as everyone else and turn it into DRUMMER METAL (and also guitars and stuff).

That's why I always loved Vital Remains. Tracks on Icons of Evil, despite being dizzying with density, have memorable parts, melodies you can follow, they sound like something. Even on the opposite with your Portals and Mitochondrians the music is intentionally murky and hazy so the lack of distinct melody lines are complemented with dense, buzzsaw production. Tech death does the whole "everything ultra clean, quantized, normalized, evened out and sterilized" route and I end up bored more than anything.

But again, that's MY opinion. My trash could easily be your treasure and vice versa. I'm sure a whole lot of people find the amount of -gaze and post- bands I like to be pretentious, boring, and ruining metal by bringing to the crowd of people who wear girl jeans and drink organic tea after their yoga class.


I have heard the whole catalogue of Vital Remains and like Sedition from HOP, though I'm not as familiar with them as with Dark Funeral or Belphegor. I can only judge by how I feel about the bands as I listen.

For whatever reason I just can play an old Nile album? Still Dark Funeral and Belphegor are timeless classic to me. I love all except maybe the really early Belphegor. Still Dark Funeral is Black and Belphegor are Black/Death and not technical death metal.

I have found drums to be important, and yes Nile has, as you know,offers some of the best drums. Hopefully we will hear a new Dark Funeral this year. Actually the last Belphegor was not at their normal "crazy" level?


I would have to say that Dark Funeral has to get the award for most consistency, they have never put out a bad or even half-way bad record to date?

Cheers!
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 4:37 AM Post #21,754 of 29,661
I only got three Vital Remains CDs:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Horrors_of_Hell/107002
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Dechristianize/16895
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Vital_Remains/Icons_of_Evil/145416

Dechristianize is easily my favorite, if only for the title track. Don't even remember what Icons Of Evil sounds like 'cause I haven't heard it in so long. If it's memorable, maybe I won't forget it again next time.


Never realized how in-your-face the drums were here? Still my favorite Remains record, from back in 95 no doubt.

[VIDEO]. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldjCqOkMINE [/VIDEO]
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 5:28 AM Post #21,755 of 29,661
Best Technical Death metal album of the last ten years. Their masterpiece has arrived.

  This is... AWESOME!!!! Shame on anyone that does not listen to this yet.. BEST ULTRA BRUTAL DEATH METAL SONG OF THE CENTURY!!!!

Oh my.
I listened through the whole album and sure, it's their best album yet, but I would still "only" give it an 8/10 or so.
A few songs sound rather alike and the whole bombast choire/orchester thing gets a bit tireing after a while (yes, I know it's their trademark thing but those trademarks can also work against you).
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 6:12 AM Post #21,757 of 29,661
  Sorry, I refer to this particular track. Doesn't get heavier than this. Even Sunn O))) is like linkin park playing live with a bunch of premature teens when compare to this.

Sure about that?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 9:23 AM Post #21,759 of 29,661
Can you recommend some Motorhead songs other than Aces of Spades? To be honest I don't know of any other


The album cover you posted Ace of Spades is considered a classic. If you were to get one early studio album, I think that's sort of the "critic's pick". Overkill is another one.
 
But, you'd probably want songs from several of those earlier albums, so I agree a compilation is you best bet.
 
The live album No Sleep til' Hammersmith is also considered a classic. It came out just after Ace of Spaces and has all those great early songs from the albums Bomber, Ace of Spades and Overkill. It's easy to find.
 
My top recommendation is No Remorse. It was a double album compilation and what I listened to death in the 80's. Super high recommendation. I just checked as I was curious on Amazon and it was re released in 2008. I'd get it over the usual "greatest hits", but you won't get any of their later stuff. Still this is the album for classic early Motorhead IMO. You can't go wrong with No Remorse, it's a classic and will give you all the early classic MH you'll ever need.
 
Don't even think of it as metal-think of it as perhaps the vintage fusion of hardcore punk, biker music and hard rock and inspired a little known band called, uh what's their name, Metallica to help create this thing called thrash
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Track Listings

Disc: 1



  1. Ace of Spades

  2. Motorhead

  3. Jailbait

  4. Stay Clean

  5. Too Late Too Late

  6. Killed by Death

  7. Bomber

  8. Iron Fist

  9. Shine

  10. Dancing on Your Grave

  11. Metropolis

  12. Snaggletooth

 

Disc: 2



  1. Overkill

  2. Please Don't Touch

  3. Stone Dead Forever

  4. Like a Nightmare

  5. Emergency

  6. Steal Your Face

  7. Louie Louie

  8. No Class

  9. Iron Horse

  10. (We Are) The Road Crew

  11. Leaving Here (Live)

  12. Locomotive

  13. Under the Knife (12' Single Version)

  14. Under the Knife (12' Single Version)

  15. Masterplan

  16. No Class (Featuring Wendy O'Williams)

  17. Stand By Your Man (Featuring Wendy O'Williams)

 
Dec 30, 2015 at 10:56 AM Post #21,761 of 29,661
  TBH I'm not a big Nile fan. Actually I don't like the majority of tech death just because it so often is virtuosity over songwriting (lookin' at you as well, prog). But Nile's had some killer albums in the past 5-10 years and I just can't deny that. They've also had some duds and some terribly recorded albums.
 
A big reason I don't like a lot of tech death is the drummer is put SO front and center, volume double the rest of the band. I mentioned Hour of Penance because I loved Paradogma, but then on Sedition they decided to have the kick drum be the loudest instrument and then have it playing double kicks nonstop for nearly the whole thing. Don't get me wrong, I love double bass, I love blast beats, but even in bands like Dark Funeral and Belphegor where there's not much variation in the drums they had the sense not to crank it up twice as loud as everyone else and turn it into DRUMMER METAL (and also guitars and stuff).
 
That's why I always loved Vital Remains. Tracks on Icons of Evil, despite being dizzying with density, have memorable parts, melodies you can follow, they sound like something. Even on the opposite with your Portals and Mitochondrians the music is intentionally murky and hazy so the lack of distinct melody lines are complemented with dense, buzzsaw production. Tech death does the whole "everything ultra clean, quantized, normalized, evened out and sterilized" route and I end up bored more than anything.
 
But again, that's MY opinion. My trash could easily be your treasure and vice versa. I'm sure a whole lot of people find the amount of -gaze and post- bands I like to be pretentious, boring, and ruining metal by bringing to the crowd of people who wear girl jeans and drink organic tea after their yoga class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNgx27eQIY
 
THX for these two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4goULivOc
 
 
 
This years showed us Ouroboros mix classical well with their second album Emanations. I'm just surprised to like the mixture, something I would not have liked in the past.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 1:23 PM Post #21,762 of 29,661
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That's kind of a scary thought :)
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM Post #21,763 of 29,661
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNgx27eQIY
 
THX for these two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4goULivOc
 
 
 
This years showed us Ouroboros mix classical well with their second album Emanations. I'm just surprised to like the mixture, something I would not have liked in the past.

 
Defo man. Portal's "Swarth" is still their magnum opus to me (opinions will vary!). 
 
Antedeluvian and Impetuous Ritual should be on the list, too. IR is actually formed from the rhythm section of Portal. 
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 2:37 PM Post #21,764 of 29,661
Since we do discuss headphones here from time to time (and I left the headphones for metal thread), here are some brief impressions of my newest:
 
  Most exciting headphone I have ever heard: the on-ear open-back Koss KTXPRO1. Cost less than $15. Mind: blown.
 
It's nowhere near as good as the also-exciting MT220 in objective performance, though. The Koss is a paradox of sorts in that some aspects of the sound are distorted, muffled, and boomy...but then other aspects are extremely detailed, engaging, and dynamic. Go figure. It should improve with a better amp, EQ, and modifications. My current amp does distort at high volume, and the Koss needs high volume to come alive. But I just can't believe how much bass and impact the Koss has—more than most closed headphones I've heard! This does not detract from the mids and treble since they're so engaging, for the most part. In fact, it enhances the experience. It's just that some of the lower frequencies suffer from the aforementioned problems at times. Maybe someone else with a better system can test it to see if they can get rid of the distortion, etc.

 
  Defo man. Portal's "Swarth" is still their magnum opus to me (opinions will vary!). 
 
Antedeluvian and Impetuous Ritual should be on the list, too. IR is actually formed from the rhythm section of Portal. 

 
I've only heard Seepia! I feel like such a newb whenever bands are mentioned that I have heard, but I've only heard a few albums. When I like a band, I try to hear all their stuff, but it's all so overwhelming...
 
My friend's black/death metal band (who are signed to Debemur Morti Productions!) has been compared to Portal in reviews:
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%C3%86vangelist/3540323826
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM Post #21,765 of 29,661
   
 
My friend's black/death metal band (who are signed to Debemur Morti Productions!) has been compared to Portal in reviews:
 
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%C3%86vangelist/3540323826

 
Your friend is in Aevangelist? Nice! Speaking of which: members of Crowhurst, Caina and Aevangelist are writing a collab release. Can hardly wait to hear it.
 

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