Let's Catch A Thief!! (Update: CAUGHT!)
Apr 10, 2013 at 4:14 AM Post #316 of 430
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Doing undoable harm to someone as a means of "justice" is never the way to go, because when you screw up, look at what you've done. Aside from that, how is irreversible physical damage to someone ever justified if they didn't do the same to you? Money is not the same thing as a physical part of your being, so it would never be OK in any situation to do something like that for a crime like this. Justice shouldn't be about punitive damages, it should be about undoing the wrong that was done (to the furthest degree possible). If you killed someone, the best you can do is keep them from doing it again, so we have life sentences. There's MANY people who have sat on death row who were later found innocent. Just imagine, how much harm would have been done to those hundreds of innocent people if it weren't for their very ardent defense attorneys? In my eyes, one innocent person's suffering is one too many, and with stuff like that happening we should never do anything irreversible like that.
I understand where you're coming from though with scaring other people off from doing it, but I'm not one to believe in negative reinforcement. It just comes down to being for punishment rather than justice. Seriously, how is cutting someone's manhood fixing the problem? No matter the consequences if people think they can get away with it, bad things will still happen.
 
If I get shut down, fine, I understand, but I still defend the relevance of this to the conversation. We're talking about potential consequences for a thief in a thread about a thief being caught, seems relevant enough to me, especially if no one is objecting.

This would be Perfect if we lived in a Perfect World.
The main problem when you idolize the idea of fair/just system is that many will take advantyge of it. Personally i dont like the idea of some punishments like death penalty, but i live in Europe, not in USA, so i probably should reserve my judgement on something that is in a culture that is different from mine (not by much, but hey!).
 
If we try to archive personal moral rectitude, the general outcome is beeing abused by those who do not posses such moreal code (i speak from expirience here), and you either accept a life of abuse for your own principals, or most likely change to a more practical behaviour.
 
Its totally off track now... but i do agree that supporting a member of this community with such viceral and violence suggesting shouts is not the right way.
Fervor and Zealousy is what normally makes civilized people look like a bunch of cavemen.
 
Apr 10, 2013 at 4:47 AM Post #317 of 430
Just a reminder, before anyone makes further posts, that we don't do the discussion of politics on Head-Fi.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 11:34 AM Post #320 of 430
Wow, 37 victims...
 
Very glad arrests have been made however it looks like the police believe these guys were working for someone still at large. 
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM Post #321 of 430
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Wow, 37 victims...
 
Very glad arrests have been made however it looks like the police believe these guys were working for someone still at large. 

I guess my joke about a "high-end audio theft industry" was actually right on par.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM Post #322 of 430
I guess my joke about a "high-end audio theft industry" was actually right on par.


Yeah, it has the whiff of being "Mob related" now, doesn't it?
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM Post #323 of 430
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Yeah, it has the whiff of being "Mob related" now, doesn't it?

By the way, I've seen your profile in the past and I'm insanely jealous of your ability to fulfill your passion for cars. I'm not sure if I've ever mentioned that before.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM Post #324 of 430
Yeah i agree..funny is that many of the cars u have in real life i own in scale 1/18, respect for ur good taste in cars! :D
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 7:37 PM Post #325 of 430
I'm so happy to hear this, it literally makes my day!
 
Todd is one of the genuine good guys that I've met in the industry, and maybe the only person I know from the upper peninsula of Michigan who isn't a Green Bay Packer fan!  I've known him for about 10 years now, first for his association with HeadRoom, and now with TTVJ.  He has been a friend to this site, and to this hobby.  I was sick over the theft of this gear, and so pleased that it's been recovered.
 
Kudos to the community for aiding in the recovery, and the good work of the Torrence police department is especially heartening.  In this day and age, with municipal budgets stretched so thin, it often seems like police don't have the time or man power to work on something as relatively unimportant as property theft.
 
Todd, I'd love to hear the details of all of this sometime...great news!
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM Post #326 of 430
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....and maybe the only person I know from the upper peninsula of Michigan who isn't a Green Bay Packer fan!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. That's simply not allowed.
 
Apr 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM Post #327 of 430
Apr 12, 2013 at 7:48 PM Post #328 of 430
Yay! Glad this is over for TTVJ
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