catspaw
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This would be Perfect if we lived in a Perfect World.
The main problem when you idolize the idea of fair/just system is that many will take advantyge of it. Personally i dont like the idea of some punishments like death penalty, but i live in Europe, not in USA, so i probably should reserve my judgement on something that is in a culture that is different from mine (not by much, but hey!).
If we try to archive personal moral rectitude, the general outcome is beeing abused by those who do not posses such moreal code (i speak from expirience here), and you either accept a life of abuse for your own principals, or most likely change to a more practical behaviour.
Its totally off track now... but i do agree that supporting a member of this community with such viceral and violence suggesting shouts is not the right way.
Fervor and Zealousy is what normally makes civilized people look like a bunch of cavemen.
Doing undoable harm to someone as a means of "justice" is never the way to go, because when you screw up, look at what you've done. Aside from that, how is irreversible physical damage to someone ever justified if they didn't do the same to you? Money is not the same thing as a physical part of your being, so it would never be OK in any situation to do something like that for a crime like this. Justice shouldn't be about punitive damages, it should be about undoing the wrong that was done (to the furthest degree possible). If you killed someone, the best you can do is keep them from doing it again, so we have life sentences. There's MANY people who have sat on death row who were later found innocent. Just imagine, how much harm would have been done to those hundreds of innocent people if it weren't for their very ardent defense attorneys? In my eyes, one innocent person's suffering is one too many, and with stuff like that happening we should never do anything irreversible like that.
I understand where you're coming from though with scaring other people off from doing it, but I'm not one to believe in negative reinforcement. It just comes down to being for punishment rather than justice. Seriously, how is cutting someone's manhood fixing the problem? No matter the consequences if people think they can get away with it, bad things will still happen.
If I get shut down, fine, I understand, but I still defend the relevance of this to the conversation. We're talking about potential consequences for a thief in a thread about a thief being caught, seems relevant enough to me, especially if no one is objecting.
This would be Perfect if we lived in a Perfect World.
The main problem when you idolize the idea of fair/just system is that many will take advantyge of it. Personally i dont like the idea of some punishments like death penalty, but i live in Europe, not in USA, so i probably should reserve my judgement on something that is in a culture that is different from mine (not by much, but hey!).
If we try to archive personal moral rectitude, the general outcome is beeing abused by those who do not posses such moreal code (i speak from expirience here), and you either accept a life of abuse for your own principals, or most likely change to a more practical behaviour.
Its totally off track now... but i do agree that supporting a member of this community with such viceral and violence suggesting shouts is not the right way.
Fervor and Zealousy is what normally makes civilized people look like a bunch of cavemen.