L.K.S. Audio MH-DA004 Dual ES9038PRO DAC - Van Damme's double impact?
Jun 20, 2021 at 6:47 PM Post #3,991 of 4,419
Bypassing the power and ground planes on a socketed SIT XO can improve its performance.

Vocal presentation is much improved,individual voices in a chorus become more discernible.

Black cap is 47uF 10V 0805 Tantalum polymer
Ceramic cap is 100nF 35V 0805 X7R.

Both are generic parts available from the usual suppliers.

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Jun 21, 2021 at 3:26 AM Post #3,992 of 4,419
I used 100uF on the output side and 820uF on the input side.
You may have to experiment with the value on the input side try values between 100uF and 820uF

I used Nichicon FPCAP RNL, these have very high pulse current capability.
https://www.nichicon.co.jp/english/products/pdfs/e-rnl.pdf

The larger values may pull in too much current on recharge causing the small inductor LKS used to overload.
If that happens you may need to reduce the size of the cap on the input side.
B0bb,
Do you know if there are any inductors before regulators for the es9038?
I mean before the 1.2V and 3.3V power supplies.
 
Jun 21, 2021 at 8:51 AM Post #3,993 of 4,419
Bypassing the power and ground planes on a socketed SIT XO can improve its performance.

Vocal presentation is much improved,individual voices in a chorus become more discernible.

Black cap is 47uF 10V 0805 Tantalum polymer
Ceramic cap is 100nF 35V 0805 X7R.

Both are generic parts available from the usual suppliers.

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Does anyone know if there is any place or onlineshop to buy the Rhea board (or similar) in Europe? It's great for testing oscillators, but shipping and customs can easily make us pay $ 35 for it when it's only $ 8.5 on the Twisted Pear Audio site.
 
Jun 21, 2021 at 4:16 PM Post #3,995 of 4,419
Jun 22, 2021 at 2:02 PM Post #3,998 of 4,419
Rick Schultz's mod of the Gen 2:
1. PE connected directly to the board
2. Silver micas replaced to Amtrans AMCH
3. New diodes

Photos, unfortunately they can't be downloaded:
https://www.ukaudiomart.com/details...9038-pro-dsd-dac-fully-modded-by-ric-schultz/
Those types of modifications already appeared around here in 2018, it was another different approach to improve the 004. Summarized:

1. Remove fuse distortions.
2. Twist AC wires from IEC to power switch
3. Hard wire all AC connections to IEC inlet
4. Re-ground the shield wires from the transformers and hardwire.
5. Remove all steel from around the transformers and remount transformers on pieces of wood.
6. Twist secondary AC wires.
7. Apply Graphene contact enhancer on AC connectors on board.
8. Damp all rectifier diodes with constrained layer damping material
9. Damp all heatsinks with constrained layer damping material.
10. Remove all coupling caps on the spdif inputs and replace with custom pure copper wire in cotton (listened to for directionality).
11. Shorten the signal path on the unbalanced outputs and use our custom wire here.
12. Eliminate one pole of filter caps in output stage.
13. Change all 16 compensation caps in all output stages to better ones.
14. Damp certain power supply caps
15. Change metalized polyester caps on 3.3V power supply to DAC with modified polyprop caps.
16. Properly orient poly caps on output of regulators for output stage.
17. Change IV resistors to high quality ones.
18. Eliminate distortion producing parts (3 of them)
19. Remount output transistors in IV stages and bend them forward so they are no longer close to the power supply caps and put a very thin piece of cardboard between the transistors and caps to further reduce their temperature. The transistors in the stock LKS are too close to the caps and can cause them to burn up within a year if left on all the time. The very latest LKS DACs have the transistors mounted underneath the chassis to eliminate this problem. My solution works as well.

If you are not using the usb input then it will sound better if you either disconnect the power supply from the more expensive board or remove the board all together if you have the cheaper usb board.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/l-k...van-dammes-double-impact.840938/post-14480636
The most striking thing was to put wooden supports to the transformers and eliminate the fixings and the metal screw.
 
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Jun 22, 2021 at 2:28 PM Post #4,000 of 4,419

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Jun 24, 2021 at 7:37 AM Post #4,002 of 4,419
The DPLL will see increased jitter due to amplitude variations in the sine wave.
You need a specialized chip called a sine to square converter, there is a price to be paid in terms of jitter.
This is hard work to get very low jitter and is best left up to the manufacturer.

1.373 € is an excessive amount to spend, Digikey has better options that will do the job

ECOC-2522 is about 95€ and Digikey Spain has 5 in stock

Phase noise calculated from the table below is 65.3fs
0.005ppm (5ppb) Temp stability

https://www.digikey.es/product-detail/es/ecs-inc/ECOC-2522-100-000-3FC/XC2265-ND/6578492




I have attached the pdf for more detailed plots.
B0bb a question about this ECOC OCXO, it consists of 5 terminals, 1 is Vcontrol and 2 is Vref, these pins would be left unconnected or do they need something for their correct operation?
 
Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Post #4,003 of 4,419
B0bb a question about this ECOC OCXO, it consists of 5 terminals, 1 is Vcontrol and 2 is Vref, these pins would be left unconnected or do they need something for their correct operation?
Vcontrol is normally half Vref, input impedance is 10k, check with ECS for specifics on the resistors and if they are mandatory, they are responsive to queries.
 
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