Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Sep 22, 2020 at 10:07 PM Post #51,166 of 63,885
I wonder why the SKS says “Restart” on the shells? What are they restarting?

Also, KZ is really missing the TWS money boat IMO. They are pumping out TWS with great specs like multi driver hybrids and all-BA. But they still are plagued with flaky Bluetooth connectivity. And that is THE single most important thing with a TWS earphone. I mean, you can’t even have a TWS without Bluetooth.

If they will take the time to figure out the Bluetooth issues - hire some Bluetooth specialists, outsource the Bluetooth portion to a more knowledgeable TWS company, etc - they could absolutely OWN the TWS market.

But all the drivers in the world won’t save them as long as they still have Bluetooth problems.
Don't forget the short battery life in 2020!!
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 10:07 PM Post #51,167 of 63,885
I wonder why the SKS says “Restart” on the shells? What are they restarting?

Also, KZ is really missing the TWS money boat IMO. They are pumping out TWS with great specs like multi driver hybrids and all-BA. But they still are plagued with flaky Bluetooth connectivity. And that is THE single most important thing with a TWS earphone. I mean, you can’t even have a TWS without Bluetooth.

If they will take the time to figure out the Bluetooth issues - hire some Bluetooth specialists, outsource the Bluetooth portion to a more knowledgeable TWS company, etc - they could absolutely OWN the TWS market.

But all the drivers in the world won’t save them as long as they still have Bluetooth problems.

lol i asked exact same question on TWS thread. and comment similarly too about BT connection and batt life.
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 10:17 PM Post #51,168 of 63,885
Well, I totally agree that the battery is crap. But that is an easier issue to fix AFTER the Bluetooth is perfect.

Bluetooth is like the foundation of a house. Screw that up, and it doesn’t matter how great the rest of the house is.

One of the important components of Bluetooth design definitely has an affect on battery life. So by fully optimizing the Bluetooth portion (including choosing the right chipset etc), will allow longer battery life.

And once the Bluetooth is perfect, the 2nd part of battery is to use a larger battery (and one of higher quality). A member posted photos of the inside of a KZ TWS a few weeks ago, and in that photo it was clear that there was room for a slightly larger battery. So a combination of a larger and higher quality battery, plus fully optimized Bluetooth circuit design will significantly improve overall battery life.

But again, the #1 priority is still fixing Bluetooth.

So KZ, if you’re reading this - spend more time on those things, instead of wasting time designing more and more TWS sidegrade models.
 
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Sep 22, 2020 at 11:23 PM Post #51,169 of 63,885
I wonder why the SKS says “Restart” on the shells? What are they restarting?

Also, KZ is really missing the TWS money boat IMO. They are pumping out TWS with great specs like multi driver hybrids and all-BA. But they still are plagued with flaky Bluetooth connectivity. And that is THE single most important thing with a TWS earphone. I mean, you can’t even have a TWS without Bluetooth.

If they will take the time to figure out the Bluetooth issues - hire some Bluetooth specialists, outsource the Bluetooth portion to a more knowledgeable TWS company, etc - they could absolutely OWN the TWS market.

But all the drivers in the world won’t save them as long as they still have Bluetooth problems.
Yup...totally agree. Battery life is also a problem for me with TWS in general. Until I can get at least 6-10 hours before requiring a re charge...I'm out. Amps in these TWS things seem kinda lame too. I've never seen anyone say these wireless devices can pump the volume like a wired set, with a good dac/amp or powerful dap.
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 11:24 PM Post #51,170 of 63,885
Oddly I've had no issues with Bluetooth connections on either of my sets. (Z1 and S1). Both of them sound pretty good for the money too, the Z1 in particular impressed me - timbre is up there with the BLON BL03. I'm not going to make great claims about battery life though - it sucks...
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 11:52 PM Post #51,171 of 63,885
Oddly I've had no issues with Bluetooth connections on either of my sets. (Z1 and S1). Both of them sound pretty good for the money too, the Z1 in particular impressed me - timbre is up there with the BLON BL03. I'm not going to make great claims about battery life though - it sucks...
KZ already got the sound tuning right (their latest IEM sounds amazing), what's left are battery life (6+ hours) and consistent Bluetooth connection. Then maybe ANC, ambiance mode, wireless charging after those two problems.
 
Sep 23, 2020 at 12:56 AM Post #51,172 of 63,885
Here is my take on the EDX.



Currently under £5 which is astonishing considering the cable on it's own is just under £3.

I read somewhere that this is a refreshed ED12 but I don't know if that's true?

I also have the ZAX which sounds very close to the ZAX and so many drivers in such a small shell is quite a feat.


Got these yesterday and they're surprisingly decent for the price. I paid S$8.20 for it which is like 6 USD? They don't do anything amazingly well, but nothing stand out to me as particularly bad either. Everything just sounds... decent. For the price, I wasn't really expecting much, but ended up being pleasantly surprised as well.

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Sep 23, 2020 at 6:05 AM Post #51,176 of 63,885
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Received them today. Does not feel as cheap as I thought they would do. Extremely light ~7 grams without tips. Will give my impression when I listen to them. :)

Do they have a filter under the mesh?
 
Sep 23, 2020 at 6:59 AM Post #51,177 of 63,885
Sep 23, 2020 at 7:26 PM Post #51,180 of 63,885
Just got the new KZ ZAX.
I've spent more than a decade searching for the perfect sound in an earphone. This is the 64th earphone (and 13th KZ earphone) in my IEM collection. By far the best I've ever heard. I think I'll stop now. I am finally satisfied.
 

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