Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Sep 21, 2020 at 10:44 AM Post #51,151 of 63,916
at very least it could give you idea on how it might sound.

The treble is a bit sharp/metallic


Sorry but this just doesn't ring true to me at all, not as far as actually listening to the darn thing is concerned. I really, really, really would not advise trying to infer how something sounds from a YouTube video, it's an even worse practice than trying to hear a FR graph.

Frankly not a good day for audio reviews it seems. At this rate even I could be a reviewer.
 
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Sep 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM Post #51,152 of 63,916
Sorry but this just doesn't ring true to me at all, not as far as actually listening to the darn thing is concerned. I really, really, really would not advise trying to infer how something sounds from a YouTube video, it's an even worse practice than trying to hear a FR graph.

Frankly not a good day for audio reviews it seems. At this rate even I could be a reviewer.
For me, after witnessing few hypes and what not, I came to a notion that my cat can be a reviewer (any cat will definitely win in "being impartial" category :))
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 4:36 PM Post #51,153 of 63,916
Everything must be taken with a grain of salt and "hearing" iems over youtube is no different.

That being said I'll take all info I can get, and this is still more factual than a random dude on forums telling me how this iem isn't concerned about making sure I hear every detail, which doesn't mean anything.

I've listened to comparisons from this dude on iems I own and found it rather relevant, despite the playlist being absolutely atrocious it really showcased the mids in relation to the other frequencies I found.

Either way, I see no reason to hate on the showcasing effort.

Also everyone should welcome contradictory opinions in this space, and take it as an opportunity to reconsider carefully and try to understand it, there's almost invariably some truth in it, nobody has the final word and your opinion is not superior to someone else opinion.

And it will probably change in 6 months anyway, ppl tend to get caught by the novelty effect.
 
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Sep 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Post #51,154 of 63,916
Everything must be taken with a grain of salt and "hearing" iems over youtube is no different.

That being said I'll take all info I can get, and this is still more factual than a random dude on forums telling me how this iem isn't concerned about making sure I hear every detail, which doesn't mean anything.

I've listened to comparisons from this dude on iems I own and found it rather relevant, despite the playlist being absolutely atrocious it really showcased the mids in relation to the other frequencies I found.

Either way, I see no reason to hate on the showcasing effort.

Also everyone should welcome contradictory opinions in this space, and take it as an opportunity to reconsider carefully and try to understand it, there's almost invariably some truth in it, nobody has the final word and your opinion is not superior to someone else opinion.

And it will probably change in 6 months anyway, ppl tend to get caught by the novelty effect.

And that's it. Watching YouTube and reading on here, you can work out whose tastes in music and IEMs are similar enough to yours that you have some idea what to expect. One guy in particular who posts on here, mostly I hear much the same as he seems to. But if he says an IEM has good bass I know it's going to be too heavy in the bass for me.
If I like something, don't take any notice of me. If I like 2 or 3 that you like and talk about things you can here, then maybe my opinion is valid TO YOU.
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 7:07 PM Post #51,155 of 63,916
And that's it. Watching YouTube and reading on here, you can work out whose tastes in music and IEMs are similar enough to yours that you have some idea what to expect. One guy in particular who posts on here, mostly I hear much the same as he seems to. But if he says an IEM has good bass I know it's going to be too heavy in the bass for me.
If I like something, don't take any notice of me. If I like 2 or 3 that you like and talk about things you can here, then maybe my opinion is valid TO YOU.
Yup, I agree. The most important thing is to recognize what your preferred sound signature is and then go from there.
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 8:49 PM Post #51,156 of 63,916
And that's it. Watching YouTube and reading on here, you can work out whose tastes in music and IEMs are similar enough to yours that you have some idea what to expect. One guy in particular who posts on here, mostly I hear much the same as he seems to. But if he says an IEM has good bass I know it's going to be too heavy in the bass for me.
If I like something, don't take any notice of me. If I like 2 or 3 that you like and talk about things you can here, then maybe my opinion is valid TO YOU.

yup, pattern recognition skill is very important in life. those who can't do it well would just follow people's choices and blames them if that said choices don't fit them {and blaming the hype) :k701smile:
the way i see it, those who seems to "hype" a certain product are just means that they are loving and enjoying it, that doesn't guarantee that everyone and me would also like it, but it is my job and responsibilities to find the pattern and make the decisions myself, and certainly not blaming other people's opinion if i ended up not liking it. it's just meaning I'm learning a new pattern
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 9:02 PM Post #51,157 of 63,916
Or do like me, just buy them all :ksc75smile::sweat_smile:
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 9:31 PM Post #51,158 of 63,916
There is a big need to understand your own preference and understand the other guy (your reviewer or friends) preferences. So you could gauge how it actually sound (how it sound to you) compared to what he they said.

Local IEM store that i go to have great selection but the dude running it (possibly due to being audio techincian) love flat gear, like boring superflat gear.
So when he recommend me something he likes, i always double check whether its too boring for me. Thankfully he (being a seller) also begun to understand my taste so his recommendation get more accurate to my liking.

"It's like the vocalist whispering to your ear" to me its like, "it's like the vocalist shouting in my ears, i prefer him/her to be in front of me not by my ear"
 
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Sep 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Post #51,159 of 63,916
Always love when folks can't let things go and hold every word you've previously said against you, no matter how inconsequential it really is... Feels like Facebook to me :)

He's right, I'm just some random guy, I never claimed to be any sort of expert. I too read others' reviews, try to pick out what is effective about their style, what makes sense to me, and then try my hand at something like that. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. It's not like anybody is paying me to do this, or that my life depends on it.
 
Sep 21, 2020 at 10:56 PM Post #51,160 of 63,916
Everything must be taken with a grain of salt and "hearing" iems over youtube is no different.

That being said I'll take all info I can get, and this is still more factual than a random dude on forums telling me how this iem isn't concerned about making sure I hear every detail, which doesn't mean anything.

I've listened to comparisons from this dude on iems I own and found it rather relevant, despite the playlist being absolutely atrocious it really showcased the mids in relation to the other frequencies I found.

Either way, I see no reason to hate on the showcasing effort.

Also everyone should welcome contradictory opinions in this space, and take it as an opportunity to reconsider carefully and try to understand it, there's almost invariably some truth in it, nobody has the final word and your opinion is not superior to someone else opinion.

And it will probably change in 6 months anyway, ppl tend to get caught by the novelty effect.

Not sure on the why but yeah, zpolt playlist is atrocious. As tiring as it is to listen to Z-reviews, he have better playlist on listening vids.
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And to repeat, yeah, Listening to youtube video on how iem might sound is bad. Recording method and your own gear comes to play and like i said, i did it to have an idea on how it might sound.

Thankfully, i begun to be able to identify which one is which before zpolt shows it, thanks to reading the impression in here or in youtube review. i read statement like CCA16 bass is bigger and treble is smoother/laid back which may have effect on me due to i seek for it, nonetheless i actually can hear "the why" the impression is that way.
One thing i definitely can't catch due to my gear is how airy ZAX is and thanks to covid and stuff, i can't do listening/trying session on my go to iem shop to feel it.
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 6:23 PM Post #51,161 of 63,916
Here is my take on the EDX.



Currently under £5 which is astonishing considering the cable on it's own is just under £3.

I read somewhere that this is a refreshed ED12 but I don't know if that's true?

I also have the ZSX which sounds very close to the ZAX and so many drivers in such a small shell is quite a feat.
 
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Sep 22, 2020 at 6:50 PM Post #51,162 of 63,916
I also have the ZAX which sounds very close to the ZAX and so many drivers in such a small shell is quite a feat.

I would think the ZAX would sound pretty close to the ZAX. :)
 
Sep 22, 2020 at 9:31 PM Post #51,163 of 63,916
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Sep 22, 2020 at 10:02 PM Post #51,164 of 63,916

I wonder why the SKS says “Restart” on the shells? What are they restarting?

Also, KZ is really missing the TWS money boat IMO. They are pumping out TWS with great specs like multi driver hybrids and all-BA. But they still are plagued with flaky Bluetooth connectivity. And that is THE single most important thing with a TWS earphone. I mean, you can’t even have a TWS without Bluetooth.

If they will take the time to figure out the Bluetooth issues - hire some Bluetooth specialists, outsource the Bluetooth portion to a more knowledgeable TWS company, etc - they could absolutely OWN the TWS market.

But all the drivers in the world won’t save them as long as they still have Bluetooth problems.
 
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Sep 22, 2020 at 10:05 PM Post #51,165 of 63,916
I wonder why the SKS says “Restart” on the shells? What are they restarting?

Also, KZ is really missing the TWS money boat IMO. They are pumping out TWS with great specs like multi driver hybrids and all-BA. But they still are plagued with flaky Bluetooth connectivity. And that is THE single most important thing with a TWS earphone. I mean, you can’t even have a TWS without Bluetooth.

If they will take the time to figure out the Bluetooth issues - hire some Bluetooth specialists, outsource the Bluetooth portion to a more knowledgeable TWS company, etc - they could absolutely OWN the TWS market.

But all the drivers in the world won’t save them as long as they still have Bluetooth problems.

It isn't only the BT connectivity, their previous wireless models had some disgraceful battery lifespan! Which will drop inevitably with more battery charges.

I'll wait for reviews on these sets, but seems their wireless team is going down the 2018 - 2019 KZ route of releasing almost weekly sidegrades/marginal upgrades. Perhaps using some of us as beta testers sigh.
 

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