Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Sep 19, 2020 at 3:12 AM Post #51,121 of 63,915
While I'm at it, the silver ZAX cable is nicer than previous KZ silver cables. More supple, less memory, not as prone to getting tangled, but still too long to the Y split and no slider.
KBEAR 8 core may suffice.
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Sep 19, 2020 at 3:56 AM Post #51,122 of 63,915
Just to clarify, when I say the ZAX is flatter than ZSX or ZS7, doesn't mean it is sterile neutral boring flat. It still warmth compared to a true flat IEM, it just it is more neutral than the other KZs I have tried so far. It is still a fun sounding IEM although basshead might find it a little bit lacking on the bass quantity. Built quality is typical KZ as of late (its great) and I like the matte finish on the face plate unlike ZS10 pro while looks cool but a finger print magnet af.

I get what you mean, the zs7 has extremely recessed mids. I prefer neutral myself but am a bit wary cause the zs10 pro felt so enclosed, boomy and fatiguing to me, but I think I'm gonna give a shot to the zax.

Altho a t2+ would probably be the better choice by far for my taste I don't like how it looks while I love the zax and we all have stupid reasons sometimes :grimacing:
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 4:01 AM Post #51,123 of 63,915
Altho a t2+ would probably be the better choice by far for my taste I don't like how it looks while I love the zax and we all have stupid reasons sometimes :grimacing:
I don't think that's stupid, IEMs are basically a fashion accessory and the Tin T2 Plus are some of the ugliest IEMs I've ever seen. Tin's designs have really been going downhill since the T2/3. ZAX look great IMO but only the black model, the silver/blue looks goofy and cheap.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 5:36 AM Post #51,124 of 63,915
Can anyone recommend foam tips that would fit the ZX SD1 similar to the silicon tips that come with them please?
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 12:23 PM Post #51,125 of 63,915
After reading about people having problems with their paragraph C connectors cracking, I decided to take a look at my ZSN's. One connector had several small fractures and the other crumbled as soon as I removed the cable. I had no other plans last night, so I decided to remove the broken connectors and replace them with mmcx.
 

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Sep 19, 2020 at 12:44 PM Post #51,126 of 63,915
Could be my lack of patience with finding the right tips, but yes that's my take on it. The CA16 are nice, I might still pick up the C12 over them depending on what I'm listening to, but if you're on the fence about the ZAX... Don't be.

Agree with this. ZAX is better than CA16. Comfort, Clarity, Less power to drive etc.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 2:24 PM Post #51,127 of 63,915
I get what you mean, the zs7 has extremely recessed mids. I prefer neutral myself but am a bit wary cause the zs10 pro felt so enclosed, boomy and fatiguing to me, but I think I'm gonna give a shot to the zax.

Altho a t2+ would probably be the better choice by far for my taste I don't like how it looks while I love the zax and we all have stupid reasons sometimes :grimacing:
Zax is far from boomy. Its tonality still warm tho. It sounds signature is similar to cca c10, while cca ca16 is similar to zs10 pro.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 2:30 PM Post #51,128 of 63,915
Agree with this. ZAX is better than CA16. Comfort, Clarity, Less power to drive etc.
Yes the ZAX is the better one for me. Decided to return the CA16 and get the black version of ZAX instead. I just don't really like the mid bass bump and I don't really want to EQ.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 2:35 PM Post #51,129 of 63,915
Just ordered a purple zsx from amazon UK for 33 squid, coming tomorrow, for that price, might be good if my connectors give up on my beloved zs10 pros.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 2:43 PM Post #51,130 of 63,915
... cca ca16 is similar to zs10 pro.
(???)
New CCA C10 pro is similar to ZS10 pro.

CA16 is actually one of the opposites of ZS10 pro and is for me an upgrade of C10.

I have these both CCAs.

Now, there is a BGGR video, where he compares CA16 and ZAX and prefers the former. Based on his "curves" and description, CA16 is milder than ZAX with less treble.
 
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Sep 19, 2020 at 4:40 PM Post #51,131 of 63,915
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New CCA C10 pro is similar to ZS10 pro.

CA16 is actually one of the opposites of ZS10 pro and is for me an upgrade of C10.

I have these both CCAs.

Now, there is a BGGR video, where he compares CA16 and ZAX and prefers the former. Based on his "curves" and description, CA16 is milder than ZAX with less treble.
Let me clarify it a bit. When I said the ca16 similar to zs10 pro, what I meant is the characteristic. Fun with a lot of energy and has that treble that bites you while not sibilance.
I have watched BGGR video too and that also one of the reason I ordered the ca16. But O trust my own ears and having tried both, I prefer the zax. I am not saying the ca16 is bad, far from it.
I actually have them all lol. C10, zs10 pro x2, zsx and c12.
 
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Sep 19, 2020 at 5:07 PM Post #51,132 of 63,915
Let me clarify it a bit. When I said the ca16 similar to zs10 pro, what I meant is the characteristic. Fun with a lot of energy and has that treble that bites you while not sibilance.
I have watched BGGR video too and that also one of the reason I ordered the ca16. But O trust my own ears and having tried both, I prefer the zax. I am not saying the ca16 is bad, far from it.
I actually have them all lol. C10, zs10 pro x2, zsx and c12.
Right, I have them all too other than ZAX, but plus C10 pro.

To me CA16 is so much more C10 than ZS10 pro - gentle coherence rather cheerful V.

CA16 also reminded me E3000 that you need to drive it much harder to sound alive due to gentle treble.

Possibly, our impression is so different that I am listening at low volumes (?)
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 5:32 PM Post #51,133 of 63,915
Right, I have them all too other than ZAX, but plus C10 pro.

To me CA16 is so much more C10 than ZS10 pro - gentle coherence rather cheerful V.

CA16 also reminded me E3000 that you need to drive it much harder to sound alive due to gentle treble.

Possibly, our impression is so different that I am listening at low volumes (?)
I usually listen at higher volume 50%+ and the mid bass is too much for my liking. You should try the ZAX if you can buy from place you can easily return. I like bass, don't get me wrong, I love my Blon BL03.
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 5:50 PM Post #51,134 of 63,915
I usually listen at higher volume 50%+ and the mid bass is too much for my liking. You should try the ZAX if you can buy from place you can easily return. I like bass, don't get me wrong, I love my Blon BL03.
It makes some sense.
I try to use lower volumes and started to struggle a bit with CA16 similar to E3000.

I use wide-bore tips that I feel mitigate excesses on both ends of the sound spectrum.

I love my BL-03 too and never felt that mid-bass is too much for me there (unlike even some Sonion bass BAs).

I will definitely order ZAX, currently contemplating to wait for cyan becoming available or just go for black :)
 
Sep 19, 2020 at 5:58 PM Post #51,135 of 63,915
It makes some sense.
I try to use lower volumes and started to struggle a bit with CA16 similar to E3000.

I use wide-bore tips that I feel mitigate excesses on both ends of the sound spectrum.

I love my BL-03 too and never felt that mid-bass is too much for me there (unlike even some Sonion bass BAs).

I will definitely order ZAX, currently contemplating to wait for cyan becoming available or just go for black :)
Over here in the USA, the blue version is available on amazon prime and cost $73 and there is a $10 coupon. The black version cost around $90 if you want prime shipping. I am ordering the black version on AE.
 

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