Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Nov 27, 2017 at 9:29 AM Post #25,621 of 64,392
I've got to agree with kokakolia in respect to the Marshall Modes. They're incredible and a notoriuous step-up from the usual budget IEMs.

I've been somewhat absorved in the last 8 months to the Chifi world and after all the usually hyped IEMs train, I've bought some (actually too much of them).
When I return to some Marshall's listening session, I'm amazed by the balanced sound. The mids are pure class and usually only in reach by expensive stuff. The bass is tight. Not boomy, but natural. The highs are detailed and the confort is maybe the best in a IEM I ever experienced.

My favourites: ZS5 v1, Swing I800, EMI-880, Sony MH1C. The Marshall Mode is maybe my favourite.

Sorry for the off-topic, but I think the Marshall Mode totally deserves the praise.
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 9:30 AM Post #25,622 of 64,392
What is the easiest way to burn in headphones? A specific youtube track on loop? A special app (android)?
You may use 1More Assistant app on play store. My experience has been pretty good. It also keeps track of burn in of multiple pairs of earphones.
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 9:40 AM Post #25,624 of 64,392
You may use 1More Assistant app on play store. My experience has been pretty good. It also keeps track of burn in of multiple pairs of earphones.
When I search it in the play store it looks like its only in chinese?
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 9:42 AM Post #25,625 of 64,392
Please excuse the low quality photo.

Do you see where the needle is pointing in this photo? There is a very small round hole. It helps vent pressure when you put the IEM in your ear. If this hole is clogged it can cause problems such as driver flex and "positive pressure" when you insert the IEM in your ear.

Push the tip of a small needle down into that hole to make sure it is clear.

Let me know if you have any additional questions, and please let us know if that solves your problem!


I can't understand how should that little hole be..
Could you please explain in a better way? Sorry and thanks for the patience
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 9:50 AM Post #25,627 of 64,392
I thought it was on this thread but since nobody commented on it I'm guessing it was elsewhere. I'll look for the link. It was a collection of 4 "burn-in" sound files: pink noise, white noise, logarithmic sweep and exponential (I think) sweep. I just plug whatever into a Benjie K9 put in on single track repeat and let it run for a day or so until the K9 needs to be recharged. I start with pink noise then a sweep.
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 10:13 AM Post #25,628 of 64,392
Ooh, get both a red set and a green set then wear one of each for the holidays!

The white ones are just so.... awwwwwwww
Gonna buy i think, but sure after some reviews.
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 10:53 AM Post #25,629 of 64,392
The white ones are just so.... awwwwwwww
Gonna buy i think, but sure after some reviews.
I skipped the ZS6 and now I'm starting to read some good impressions about them. Now the ZSR... Gonna wait for them to be thoroughly reviewed... but the shells look like the ZS3's... Which make my ears hurt... I'm inclined to cease my kz adventure here... Until I get curious (or drunk) and start to browse AE... And pull a trigger on a couple of new KZs... Damn... I wish I could save some money to buy me a nice pair of beyerdynamics... I hate you guys... Ups... There goes my credit card again... Damn...
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM Post #25,633 of 64,392
I feel like, this is a good time to compare the swing800s and Zs5's, (Note: I only own Zs5 v1)

Even though im not as good as @vector84 and his indepth analysis or as knowledgeable as @Slater in terms of mods and hardware, i will try my best and objectively define the two

I will also post my preferences and songs used at the bottom for reference

Build

Swings: For starters, the swings are a bit cheaper or around the same price as the Zs5s. I bought the Swings for $18 AUD and the Kzs for $30 respectively. Now before we get into the sound, i must admit, the build on the Swings were a complete mixed bag. Its got an amazing aluminium shell, and a good looking cable, however here is where the praise ends. Arguably the most important aspect is how well the cables perform. The swings have a very thick rubbery coating which introduces a lot of microphonics when moving around. Its also very very sticky, even stickier than the stock KZ cable. And normally that would not be an issue, except it sticks to literally everything. Even when im listening whilst in bed (and reading), i often find myself getting annoyed by the fact i have a to fiddle with a cable sticking and pulling the headphones out of my ear. Another thing to note is the insanely cheap looking microphone, which breaks the illusion of an expensive iem. These are the achilles heel of the Swings. Now, Forget running, let alone having a smooth walk with these, these are for stationary listening. However, one advantage is, how amazing its anti-tangle properties are. It almost never tangles up.




KZ: The Zs5's on the other hand, have a plastic housing and decent build quality. The plastic does feel cheap, and the Zs6 is a huge improvement over this with its aluminium body. However, thats not really an issue, and it looks very good and clean in person. I dont care about the plastic build too much, and its major advantage are the removable cables. This extends its life by quite a bit, and the upgraded silver plated cable is actually very nice. It does tangle a fair bit in my pocket, however, there is 0 cable noise which is huge improvement over the stock cable. I can ever run with them and their over-ear designs lead them to not falling out of my ears. Now to be clear, they don't feel like they will break on me, but the build does require a lot to be desired. However, the Zs6 does address and fix all these issues.



Sound

Swings:
In terms of sound, the swings are absolutely phenomenal. I would describe the sound to be V-shaped and with vibrant highs. I think these house a single dynamic drivers (not sure) and they do pack a punch. The highs are a bit bright, but not piercing or sibilant at all. The mids do lack an extra oomph and the vocals sound recessed. However, the bass is very quick and deep, which makes it super fun to listen to. Infact, ill say it here: These sound like closed back SHP9500s to some extent (not in soundstage per say, but soundwise to me, they do resemble my Shp9500s vaguely). They sound identical to my senheisser momentums and provide around the same sound stage, which in short is excellent. However, it does slightly lack bass extension, and sub-bass is minimal. The overall sound is superb and Jazz sounds amazing with these.


KZ: These also sound stellar, and pack a punch far above their weight. The Treble is very bright and sparkly, and on some tracks even sound sibilant to me (Like Fallout Boys: Last Of The Real Ones). I actually needed foam tips to tame that, and now i must say, its not just bearable, but rather very fun to listen to and an absolute pleasure if appreciate good highs. It has 4 drivers, 2BA and 2DD. The mids are very neutral and to my ears sound very good. The bass and sub-bass is where it dominated the swings. The sub-bass is phenomenal, and extends very deep (Upto the 30-50khz). Infact, i can feel my ears shaking and rumbling when i test 20khz samples on it, which is mighty impressive. Bass is also very well defined and works really well on genres such as pop and rap, however, the bass is a bit slower (compared to Swings), which could have helped with EDMs (Halsey Colors: Audizen Remix). The soundstage is also very very wide. When listening to tracks such as Donald Fagens: I.G.Y. You can trace all the elements in play and there is fantastic instrumental separation, more so than the sennheiser and swings. Overall, it is possibly the best iem i own, and it gets very loud on weak sources as a bonus (Neutron+Phone).


Overall

It is a very amusing predicament where i can not simply recommend one over the other. The swings should honestly be enjoyed irrespective of its price. Its an actual gem and i could have not been any more impressed with it. The KZ's are also solid. It sounds great with almost anything i throw at it and it continually amazes me with how well it performs, specially considering it can now be bought for $19 AUD on deals.

If i had to recommend anyone of them, id say:


Get the KZ, if your'e not treble sensitive or dont mind using foam tips or eq (Highly recommended). However, i can not guarantee you will get the v1 hence everything stated here would not apply to them. Also i did go through 8 pairs of tips before i settled on foam, hence be ready for tip rolling.

Get the swings, If your'e afraid of getting the V2 or dont like too much treble. In all honesty, the Swings are insanely amazing and It should be enjoyed irrespective of price.

However, if you can, i would get both of them at such cheap prices.



Songs Used/My Preferences

I listen to a lot of Rap, Rock and most Pop songs. I also listen to EDMs from time to time and appreciate my drumstep, those are my preferences and they influence how i perceive these headphones

Songs used:

1: Post Malone Rockstar, other releases
2: XXXTentacion- Roll In Peace
3: A$AP Ferg- Plain Jane, Yammy Gang etc
4: Fallout Boys - Almost all their releases
5: Linkin Park- All releases
6: Aesop Rock-None Shall Pass and other releases
7: Jazz - numerous songs
8: Donal Fagens:I.G.Y
9: Numerous EDMS - Including Tristam, Braken, Teminite, Panda Eyes
10: Vivaldi - Four Seasons


Source:

- Spotify Premium with highest preset
-Galaxy Note 5 International With Wolfson Dac
-My Amp is on its way, and i will re-edit this to include any improvements/changes that it brings
A good comprehensive review. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM Post #25,634 of 64,392
Looks like the shell design is indeed the same as the ZS3, judging on that recent pic (the previous pic I saw in this thread isn't close enough to see). This is definitely the rumored hybrid version of the ZS3 I've been reading on this thread. I definitely might get this as soon as it comes out, as I really like how the ZS3 fits on my ear. Also, like the ZS6, it's available in red. I like everything in red.
 
Nov 27, 2017 at 11:33 AM Post #25,635 of 64,392
Looks like the shell design is indeed the same as the ZS3, judging on that recent pic (the previous pic I saw in this thread isn't close enough to see). This is definitely the rumored hybrid version of the ZS3 I've been reading on this thread. I definitely might get this as soon as it comes out, as I really like how the ZS3 fits on my ear. Also, like the ZS6, it's available in red. I like everything in red.
We're having the same thoughts Screenshot_20171128-003245.png
 

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