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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread

  1. vladstef
    Given the ZS10 rumor with 5 drivers per side, do you think that KZ will eventually progress to better drivers and not just increase numbers like they have been doing lately?
    With this ZSR and some of the previous releases they just keep making combinations of same drivers, feels kinda uninspiring. I though that ES3 was pretty redundant and now this :sweat_smile:
  2. Slater
    That's honestly why I skipped the ES3. Seemed kind of redundant meh
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  3. CoiL
    Will do.
    Yeah, long time ago. I`ve done lot of mods lol, craziest of them Monk into IEM (NUN-mod).
    ATR with open back didn`t sound much different than stock closed but lower impedance cable and removing nozzle mesh helped to improve it little.
    ATR is rather refined ATE... BUT... I find ATE mids and soundstage(frontal depth) better with my gear&ear. ATR imaging is little closer in frontal depth and stereo-sides also closer.
    No and I doubt it will bring improvement, rather degrade sound in highs department to being too harsh/sibilant.
    Modified ATE still bests out ATR imho, more dynamic natural sound with better soundstage and imaging (for my gear&ear, again :wink: )

    Let me put it this way:
    ATR is something like Monk+
    ATE FF-mod is something like Asura 2.0
    that`s just rough picture to paint a picture.
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2017
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  4. c4rb0n
    Thanks sir, the registered airmail costs 2$ going to my country, im still planning on getting a another pair of ZS6 as a gift or Svara Red's on Aliexpress to add on my collection LOL, thanks for the insight sir :ksc75smile:
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  5. Superluc
    Yeah, i think so too.

    Older photos of them, like the ones posted by Coil, with that metal writing on green case, looks so damn better :unamused:
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2017
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  6. paulindss
    The guy bragged so much about the marshal mode, that it cought my attention, the majority of budget chi-fi iems are v-shaped. A mid, natural oriented sound can be more expensive. The tips the he give us on the mode on 20$ are valid, c'mon. The thing is that i have no income(student), and the money i separate to buy iem's can give me only one at time. Right now i have zsr, ask hybrid and marshall mode on my watch haha.
  7. westsenkovec
    Did you get the black version?
  8. vector84
    18dB north of neutral bass is a valid "balanced" earphone? a'ight, good to know. :thinking:
  9. paulindss
    It was he that stated those qualities on mode, i can"t say because i've never heard, but i said the tip he was gaving was valid, the mode seems different the the v-shape with huge spikes tha'ts so usual these days. The Fr graph that i see on Marshall mode indicates a l-shaped with no huge spike v on mid to high frequencies. Very different than latest kzs, that not only has a bass boost, but a recess in mids, and huge spikes in high frequencies
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2017
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  10. Cruelhand Luke
    I'm with you on this one...I love my Fidelio L2, but you won't see me popping off in the Sennheiser Momentum thread about how much better they are.
    I will say this, the last time I heard all this Marshal Major jibber jabber I went and checked the price and it was like $30 or $40 which isn't bad, but not great when I got my ZS5 for $13.00....then I checked the price again just now and it's $23.00.
    AND, I just realized that the earpiece has an M on it...My initials...hunh, that would be pretty cool to have my own monogrammed IEMs...
    tell me more about this 'balanced sound' you speak of....
  11. Cruelhand Luke
    This is wonderful, you are really making progress! Unfortunately that's all the time we have today, ok? Go ahead and take that breakthrough home and ponder it and the next time you want to lash out at a KZ headphone, you reflect back on today, ok pal?
    I'm really proud of you. :)
  12. Slater
    There's neutral IEMs in that price range FYI
  13. kokakolia
    The majority of cheap IEMs from any brand are V-shaped with a huge chance of nasty treble spikes. Kz is no exception to that rule. I am flabbergasted by the amount of hype surrounding Kz for that matter. They just sound like cheap earphones.
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  14. paulindss
    Do you mind telling me wich ones ? Not joking, i'm interested, i have little to no reference in more neutral signature. Not talking about earbuds
  15. Saoshyant
    Just because it's V shaped doesn't make it cheap. It just means it's a sound sig you don't enjoy. This doesn't make it inherently bad. I personally find neutral to be a little boring, but that just means it doesn't suit me, that's all.

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