[Chief Stringer]

Although ill probably get some more ED10s anyone recommend a pair with a bass heavy sound, decent isolation and generally easy to deal with (no over ear cables etc)

 

[DaveLT]

ED10 if you really like a v shaped IEM. ED4 is simply not as refined as the S3 or even similar.

 

[aaDee]

It's a new day and new KZ. HDS3 this time.
Are they just changing the shells of same drivers??
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-New-Arrival-KZ-HDS3-Metal-Bass-In-Ear-Headset-W-Wheat-Lines-High-Fidelity-Control/1213684_32585879411.html

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[ezekiel77]

Why do they look like a metal/mesh version of an older KZ? Prolific company indeed haha.

 

[DaveLT]

Why do they look like a metal/mesh version of an older KZ? Prolific company indeed haha.

It could be the hds1 driver in the shell of the EDR2 but smaller and with small holes like the hds1

 

[fallrsk]

Although ill probably get some more ED10s anyone recommend a pair with a bass heavy sound, decent isolation and generally easy to deal with (no over ear cables etc)

Nevermind what Dave says, I upgraded from the ED10 -> Zircon -> ED4 since I prefer a clear, extensive but bass heavy iem for mostly techno listening when out and about. Anything above the ED4 seems to be more neutral (HDS, ED3), anything below seems to have less clarity.

Also, the ED10 bugged the hell out of my ears! They'd never move but they were so uncomfortable due to the little bump on the case keeping pressure on my outer ear for 1 hr+.

EDIT: ED4 seems to be a bit U shaped, atleast mine does, so the highs may be piercing at times.

 

[Podster]

  It's a new day and new KZ. HDS3 this time.
Are they just changing the shells of same drivers??
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-New-Arrival-KZ-HDS3-Metal-Bass-In-Ear-Headset-W-Wheat-Lines-High-Fidelity-Control/1213684_32585879411.html

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By the looks of these they are refining the shells on their iem's. I like the left and right band as well as the screen on the nozzle looks so much more refined than earlier model KZ's where the QC on screens was rather poor. Still for $10 bones most KZ's in this price range sound far better than $10 and miles ahead of most cheap iem's and buds

 
 
Not sure about strain relief of this pair but they look to finally have run out of the rubber cable

This new black stuff looks kind of slick.

 

[Austrian]

Maybe I overlooked it, but has anyone tried the ZN1 Mini, yet?

 

[cr0wnest]

I recently acquired the ZS1 and its just a bloat of bass similar to the ATE-S which I now feel is also bass bloated, though it seems stronger on the ZS1. The highs are there but it always stays behind the low end and it never shines. Thats fine if you like that kind of sound signature, but I personally feel that its too boomy for me to use in the long term. I hope the ZN1 Mini will be better.
 
Also the ZS1 can be quite hard to get a secure fit. I had to use two hands to properly sit the IEM into my ears before I wrap the cable over my ear. I also tried swapping out ear tips but none of it seem to improve the fit on my ears. Probably just me though.

 

[Nadsp]

What is the difference between ed9 and ed9s ?

 

[DaveLT]

What is the difference between ed9 and ed9s ?

No differences. S is just ED9 in black

 

[GhettoBlaster]

Been watching this thread develop for some time looking for a new headphone, I just ordered the ate s and zn1 mini. Haven't really seen much posted on the zn1 mini hoping it's between the ate s and zs1 in terms of head shaking bass (little bit a bass-head). Also off topic any one try the **** ue's? Haven't seen anything on the forums expect 1 review. They look kinda promising wanted to know if anyone could compared them to the ate s or zn1.

 

[CADCAM]

  I recently acquired the ZS1 and its just a bloat of bass similar to the ATE-S which I now feel is also bass bloated, though it seems stronger on the ZS1. The highs are there but it always stays behind the low end and it never shines. Thats fine if you like that kind of sound signature, but I personally feel that its too boomy for me to use in the long term. I hope the ZN1 Mini will be better.
 
Also the ZS1 can be quite hard to get a secure fit. I had to use two hands to properly sit the IEM into my ears before I wrap the cable over my ear. I also tried swapping out ear tips but none of it seem to improve the fit on my ears. Probably just me though.

You're not alone...I have the ATE-S & ZS1 and had issue's with fit. I ended up getting the ZS1 to sound Ok with the right tip and insertion depth but it was a challenge. I gave the ATE-S to my son. Over the ear is not for me.

 

[CADCAM]

I prefer rather neutral experience iem oem,as i thought i could try ed4 that come with 'hires' tag. But i cant tolerate with extensive in whichever direction as i care for my ears. Also o rather prefer u shape than v shape,the result maybe isnt as pumped up as the v's but equalizer and amplifier can emphasize to point of my satifaction.currently my ate still shipping.Since ive read this thread from the start, i found ed4 with the most reveal design as i certain kz got alot of bass in theirs, decide to get vapourize rather than get pumped up by ed9 and other bassy,outdated kz's.

I've missed about 75% of what you said but if you are saying at the end the ED9 is bassy and outdated you might want to listen to a pair. With the brass nozzles...

 

[DaveLT]

You're not alone...I have the ATE-S & ZS1 and had issue's with fit. I ended up getting the ZS1 to sound Ok with the right tip and insertion depth but it was a challenge. I gave the ATE-S to my son. Over the ear is not for me.

They did make a uncomfortable IEM comfortable tho (it is a IMx style) so props to them but had they started with a SE design it would have fitted better