Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Feb 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM Post #9,781 of 64,104
vapman I run them with my NX1 every once in a while. Benefits a few models, like the EDR2, ZS1, and ATE but even then it's not entirely necessary. Most sound good out of whatever source imo.

I'm still astounded by the bassy ATE comments. All four of the silver release pairs that I've had in my possession have been mostly balanced with a really warm signature, rolled off at both ends. The two remaining pairs (one I keep as a spare) are exceptionally mellow. I'm thinking they must have made some changes somewhere down the line.
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 3:03 PM Post #9,782 of 64,104
@vapman I run them with my NX1 every once in a while. Benefits a few models, like the EDR2, ZS1, and ATE but even then it's not entirely necessary. Most sound good out of whatever source imo.

I'm still astounded by the bassy ATE comments. All four of the silver release pairs that I've had in my possession have been mostly balanced with a really warm signature, rolled off at both ends. The two remaining pairs (one I keep as a spare) are exceptionally mellow. I'm thinking they must have made some changes somewhere down the line.


I do not consider any of the ATE to be bassy at all unamped. however with an amp they really surprise me.
 
I've tried all 3 versions of the ATE (and several of each those, not just 1 of each) unamped & amped and have found with an amp and some EQ the ATE really rumbles.
 
I thought all my silver ones were a bit bright though. the translucent ones were definitely warm sounding.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if it's just kind of a gamble as to what sound sig you get.
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 4:03 PM Post #9,783 of 64,104
I run all my iem's from my Beresford Capella amp & Bushmaster MKII DAC...sounds fantastic IMO...
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Feb 26, 2016 at 4:12 PM Post #9,784 of 64,104
  Has anyone ordered ZS2 yet?


OMG, there's a ZS2 already!
 
Sure enough and in blue no less. Now you would have thought by now being an over ear model they would have also turned the lettering so looking at them on Z whatever read right side up
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZS2-In-Ear-HIFI-Bass-Earphone-Dual-Dynamic-Driver-Headphone-Stereo-Music-Headset-Earbuds-fone/32609880104.html?spm=2114.30010208.3.248.4VVrWF&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_301_10020_502_10001_10014_10002_10017_10005_10010_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_9999_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6451&btsid=c0ed8f33-dc38-47fb-af27-d1f04174f00d
 
So these have a 6mm and 6.8mm as opposed to the ZN1 Mini having a 6.8mm and an 8mm (Same drivers in the ZS1), now I really want to know if the ZS2's have less bass than the ones!
 
Are you going to be reporting on this soon Eisen???? Looks like the smaller driver setup and blue shells are going to cost you 8 bucks more
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Feb 26, 2016 at 4:38 PM Post #9,785 of 64,104
 
OMG, there's a ZS2 already!
 
Sure enough and in blue no less. Now you would have thought by now being an over ear model they would have also turned the lettering so looking at them on Z whatever read right side up
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZS2-In-Ear-HIFI-Bass-Earphone-Dual-Dynamic-Driver-Headphone-Stereo-Music-Headset-Earbuds-fone/32609880104.html?spm=2114.30010208.3.248.4VVrWF&s=p&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_301_10020_502_10001_10014_10002_10017_10005_10010_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_9999_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6451&btsid=c0ed8f33-dc38-47fb-af27-d1f04174f00d
 
So these have a 6mm and 6.8mm as opposed to the ZN1 Mini having a 6.8mm and an 8mm (Same drivers in the ZS1), now I really want to know if the ZS2's have less bass than the ones!
 
Are you going to be reporting on this soon Eisen???? Looks like the smaller driver setup and blue shells are going to cost you 8 bucks more
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I'm totally broke at the moment xD Two HDS3, a monk and EDR2 already coming very soon. I'll wait for someone's opinion on ZS2 first. 
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 4:46 PM Post #9,787 of 64,104
@Podster According to this listing they still have 6mm and 8mm drivers.....hmmmm.

http://m.aliexpress.com/item-desc/32612080171.html


Hmm, this is what I see in your link!
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I here you Eisen as I have the ACME's and EDR2's coming, I dropped the EDS2 because they were just to close in design to the EDR2's and I'm swearing off KZ (No really) so don't try and talk me into the ZS2
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Not to mention I dropped on those cute little Superlux HD562's
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Feb 26, 2016 at 5:13 PM Post #9,788 of 64,104
 
Hmm, this is what I see in your link!
HTB1bVMdLFXXXXcvXXXXq6xXFXXXW.jpg

 
I here you Eisen as I have the ACME's and EDR2's coming, I dropped the EDS2 because they were just to close in design to the EDR2's and I'm swearing off KZ (No really) so don't try and talk me into the ZS2
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Not to mention I dropped on those cute little Superlux HD562's
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Wow... how many earphones do you have? 
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 5:31 PM Post #9,789 of 64,104
Hmm, this is what I see in your link!
HTB1bVMdLFXXXXcvXXXXq6xXFXXXW.jpg


I here you Eisen as I have the ACME's and EDR2's coming, I dropped the EDS2 because they were just to close in design to the EDR2's and I'm swearing off KZ (No really) so don't try and talk me into the ZS2
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Not to mention I dropped on those cute little Superlux HD562's:rolleyes:


Scroll down to the images. They mention 6 and 8 mm drivers, and the images do show one being notably larger. Then again, this is Aliexpress we're talking about, so who the heck really knows, haha.
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 5:36 PM Post #9,790 of 64,104
  Wow... how many earphones do you have? 


Too embarrassed to say Eisen, going to have to start culling soon
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More than you and I could wear out in the remainder of our lifetimes
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Currently adding 2 more KZ (and why I said I'm swearing off KZ) plus numerous odds and ends, couple Klipsch, VJJB , HCK UE Custom, Rockets, Havi's, Phonak 022's, Plextome X41M, Sony XB40EX, BW Delta's, Trinity Delta's, Techne's, Delta V2 and Vyrus on the way and a couple pair of Monk's (I'm sure I've missed a pair or two just because I've forgotten where their stored)
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Over the years I've probably given away at least this many as well, hopefully I've turned a few friends on in that process then there's the full size cans and on-ears. Hmm, seeing some kind of pattern here
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I'm with you B9, they may be the same drivers in all four
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Maybe someone needs to ask that particular sellers which one is it!
 
Feb 26, 2016 at 6:31 PM Post #9,792 of 64,104
Discussion of the S3 and S4 seems to have completely dived off, but now I've got mine, and ready to discuss them. :)
 
So the awfully explosive nature of the S4 (aka Z1) has tamed down significantly, and now it is just a refined U signature, more than V-shaped. In fact, that U-shape and need for ~100+ hours to get it fully broken in reminded me of the famous JVC FX40, which I also have. I broke that out of storage and sure enough, they are massively similar, in all sonic ways. Now I might also add many more hours to the ED4 and see if it does the same. I still can't tell with certainty if the only differences between the S4 and ED4 are the number of hours on them. (My S4 has more, I gave up on the ED4 too early perhaps.)
 
I have the S3 now, and out of the box it is great. Somewhat balanced with a mild extra kick in the bass.
 
Both of these can compete (with more evaluation time) for my favorite KZ along with the HDS3, and maybe the EDR2 when it arrives. But these, IMO, are ahead of the ED4, ED8, ED10, ATE-S, and ZN1 Mini, which I also own.
 

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