[Shluupag]

Thinking I got same production run EDSE as Stovoker, can agree. But I also agree with what Hisoundfi can hear with ES... what doesn't sound right when you talk about EDSE and then comparing and preferring it to ES. With EDSE I hear overpowering bloaty ~subwhateverbass, then the veil Stovoker is talking about and harsh treble. ES fixes everything (again my only two IEMs, I really need to use some imagination here, I was ok with EDSE before getting ES, just things bothered, thought it's just how IEMs sound), exceeept does get similarly harsh with treble at times. This could annoy somebody, but it works with the overall sound of ES much better.
 
With the consideration that fit for me is such that ES pop in -> good fit right away... EDSE is fiddle, fiddle -> good now -> argh they moved -> fiddle -> **** it -> back to ES. My frustration is starting to color my judgement.

 

 

[1clearhead]

  Thinking I got same production run EDSE as Stovoker, can agree. But I also agree with what Hisoundfi can hear with ES... what doesn't sound right when you talk about EDSE and then comparing and preferring it to ES. With EDSE I hear harsh treble, overpowering bloaty ~subwhateverbass, then the veil Stovoker is talking about. ES fixes everything (again my only two IEMs, I really need to use some imagination here, I was ok with EDSE before getting ES just something bothered, thought it's just how IEMs sound), exceeept does get similarly harsh with treble at times. This could annoy somebody, but it works with the overall sound of ES much better.
 
With the consideration that fit for me is such that ES pop in -> good fit right away... EDSE is fiddle, fiddle -> good now -> argh they moved -> fiddle -> **** it -> back to ES. My frustration is starting to color my judgement.

 
My KZ-ES works incredibly well with the 'round wide-bore foam tips'. It settles the spashy treble and makes them sound very fine and vivid.

 

[Shluupag]

Thanks for the tip.

 

[mochill]

the thing I don't like about the kz edse is the lack of treble extension and slightly smaller soundstage versus the es

 

[peter123]

My main grip with the kdse is the bloated bass. I actually enjoy the rest quite a bit so it's a shame with that overwhelming bass bloat.

Edit: For the price it's still a great performer, just that it's not my prefered tuning

 

[Leo888]

Seems like there are issues across the highs, mids and lows from different ears with the EDSE. Guess preference plays a part and a couple that may have a production issues here.

Generally,which out of all the KZ models do you guys feels offers the best value. Need to stock up some as Christmas gifts and would appreciate some thoughts here. Also, hoping to keep to one model if possible. Just needed about 10 pairs while personally would pick up the SE and ES.

Thanks.

 

[flyski]

My summary of KZ EDSE: No soundstage. Bloated bass. No separation. Total chaos. Recessed treble. Source: sgs4, sgs, s:flo2

 

[1clearhead]

  the thing I don't like about the kz edse is the lack of treble extension and slightly smaller soundstage versus the es

 
+1

 

[nismo88]

   
My KZ-ES works incredibly well with the 'round wide-bore foam tips'. It settles the spashy treble and makes them sound very fine and vivid.

I tried different tips and finally settled for foam tips and its exactly like what you said.... the treble is not so bright and it sounds so much better now... agree that sound stage wider than edse...

 

[SymphonyX7]

My summary of KZ EDSE: No soundstage. Bloated bass. No separation. Total chaos. Recessed treble. Source: sgs4, sgs, s:flo2

Exactly why I don't like it. My friends who own Audio Technica headsets, particularly the M50 and WS-series, seem to love it though.

 

[nihontoman]

I have a question about dt3 - they advertise as having dual unit driver, what does that mean though? I'm pretty sure there's no dual dynamic thing going on, but what else could that mean? Any ideas? Also, which is the best kz iem ever? In terms of sound disregarding the preferences in signature)

 

[mochill]

guessing dual membrane diaphragm

 

[Ira Delphic]

 

  I'll try to contribute some impressions once my other KZs (a GR and ANV) arrive. Problem is China seems to have a ridiculous week-long holiday and my order has been stalled. I may receive them on the last week of October at the earliest....

KZ-ES are my personal favorite 'dynamics' right now. And the metal housing it sits in, incredibly heavy duty!

 
I just ordered from an Aliexpress seller - not the KZ store, for $8.70 shipped. I'm skeptical to say the least but will keep try to keep an open mind when I test them. I'll post in 30 days or so when the China Post shipment arrives.

 

[bhazard]

Well well. If this is an upgrade over the LP I have, I want.
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/GK-LPS-music-headphones-foldable-headset-computer-headset-high-end-mobile-computer-headset-comfortable-to-wear/1380688_2055043657.html

 

[Milanche78]

I just ordered these
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/KZ-Professional-5-8MM-the-limit-Fretting-circle-Ear-Headphones-music-earphone-apply-to-MP3-phone/1460035_2049370260.html
 
The seller is new, but offered a discount and a free box, hope for the best.