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I preferred ast to as24, found it slightly superior in some technicals
I have them and they're sitting in my drawer. I don't like their tuning at all (chaotic mids). And the biggest surprise for me was the lack of resolution and detail with so many drivers. I hope my impressions are strongly subjective and you will find them much more to your liking.I told myself to stop buying cheap IEM’s and save for more expensive ones because my collection kept getting bigger and bigger but in a moment of mental bafflement I bought the Kz As 16 Pro… anyone has them? And do you like them?
I hope so to but I think I just wasted 32,- . Anyway thanksI have them and they're sitting in my drawer. I don't like their tuning at all (chaotic mids). And the biggest surprise for me was the lack of resolution and detail with so many drivers. I hope my impressions are strongly subjective and you will find them much more to your liking.
try to avoid any weird tuning . The AS16 pro has a big dip after 3k and its bump at 1.2K can make the mid sound honky.I hope so to but I think I just wasted 32,- . Anyway thanks
*based on your input I cancelled them and AliExpress accepted. I dodged (a small) bullit there*
Having the Susvara I'd say the jump from say my hek v2 to Susvara was definitely worth it and I do love my Lola more than Pr1 but it's scary how close they are for what I paid for them. And I'll also add that imo this Pr1 smokes the Diana no contest and that was a 600.00 iem' unless I haven't found the right tip yet, I've tried a lot because I hear some potential thereThe price performance metrics are going down as upper budget series now enroaching Midfi and MidFi now enroaching ToTL
it further cause the price performance curve to become really steep after you reach $80~150 territory.
Say PR1 Pro ($80) have 75~80% of KiloBuck ToTL performance, then you move to S12 Pro and WuZetian Heyday ($150~250) that have 80~90% of Kilobuck ToTL.
The question now become, whether the rest of 10% of sound worth $800+ cost to reach it?
The price performance metrics are going down as upper budget series now enroaching Midfi and MidFi now enroaching ToTL
it further cause the price performance curve to become really steep after you reach $80~150 territory.
Say PR1 Pro ($80) have 75~80% of KiloBuck ToTL performance, then you move to S12 Pro and WuZetian Heyday ($150~250) that have 80~90% of Kilobuck ToTL.
The question now become, whether the rest of 10% of sound worth $800+ cost to reach it?
I feel the same way. I haven’t touched mine for a while, they’re in my drawer also. I’d recommend the AS16 Pro High Impedance instead for mids and overall tuning; treble could have more sparkle (but that’s why I keep my OG AS16).I have them and they're sitting in my drawer. I don't like their tuning at all (chaotic mids). And the biggest surprise for me was the lack of resolution and detail with so many drivers. I hope my impressions are strongly subjective and you will find them much more to your liking.
VS he1000se , whatever the source , KZ AST (120$) vocals sound more naturally fletched detailed and lifelike ( even out of an lgv30 or dongle )Having the Susvara I'd say the jump from say my hek v2 to Susvara was definitely worth it and I do love my Lola more than Pr1 but it's scary how close they are for what I paid for them. And I'll also add that imo this Pr1 smokes the Diana no contest and that was a 600.00 iem' unless I haven't found the right tip yet, I've tried a lot because I hear some potential there
I absolutely love AS16 Pro (standard green 18ohm version), i use it without the filter on the nozzle with a 220ohm impedance adapter and a small wide bore eartips, it's been my endgame for a little over a year now, the detail and resolution are quite superb for the price though not gonna lie, also pretty good holographic soundstage, sounds can definitely travel above your head and to me it's immersive and realistic sounding, great separation too, i have other KZ/CCA IEMs and the AS16 Pro is just in a different realm for meanyone has them? And do you like them?
I didn't know the AS16 pro with 220 ohm is that great. I am planning to change the filter on my AS24 too. But a bit hesitate since it is almost irreversible, I can't find 5mm cloth mesh from my local shop.my aim for the next IEM would probably be the AS24 silver version maybe, looking forward for that haha
here's a graph of it with different impedance adapter as a reference, and to me the 200, 75 and 30ohm are well tuned already, it sounds better than looking at a graph imho
and yeah, Banbeucmas is my fav target ^-^
Has anyone tried Silver Castor and Pianist? Are they close to technical aspects such as resolution or it's better to go directly for the Pianist?
The one that manage to break the market and make genuine waves is KZ Castor.I feel like all those sub- $20 KZ single DD past year, offer pretty much the same thing. Same driver, same design codes, similar graphs, yeah slight change in tuning filters but that's about it. If you already have buds like D-Fi or Krilla, You probably don't need multiple sets of those. Buds like Moondrop Chu II, Truthear Hexa, or XSL X-One (just to name a few) are very competitive and more varieties in budget range nowadays.
Using extensively home /outside / pockets / gym etc both AST and ZAR , some months now.. in and out ears, swapping cables etc..The one that manage to break the market and make genuine waves is KZ Castor.
the rest, we have announcement, only 1~2 review, and disappear.
Unlike Moondrop, Truthear, Tangzu, 7hz who have clearer product plan/segment and relatively good relation with its somewhat active fanbase and audiophile community.
KZ have rather negative name in audiophile community, didnt have the healtiest relation with reviewer that can promote their product, and the product release is a bit haphazard... all in all caude apathy among the community
Unless the product is really good like castor, it will comes and goes really fast.