[cleg]

Your description reminds me of watching an action movie that's fun, entertaining, & enjoyable, but at the same time the dialogue is cheesy, there are plot holes, and some of the action scenes are just overdone & ludicrous.
You know in the back of your mind it was a horribly made movie if you are a serious movie critic, but it may be a very well made movie if the goal was mostly fun & entertainment.
I always think the critics should add a category to their reviews for fun & entertainment value, "Yeah, this movie was absolutely terrible in a critical sense, but I can't wait to watch it again!"

Pretty good metaphor, but I still think ASF isn’t terrible. It’s like recent Michael Bay movies: not something smart, but entertaining. And not bad in general, as there is Uwe Boll and his movies )))

 

[kmmbd]

Pretty good metaphor, but I still think ASF isn’t terrible. It’s like recent Michael Bay movies: not something smart, but entertaining. And not bad in general, as there is Uwe Boll and his movies )))

Michael Bay movies are apt analogies for the ASF/ASX duo I guess. Big budget (big driver count), big name actors (KZ is a big name now), horrible storyline (the tuning...) and all action (those moments of fun as you mentioned haha).

For me it's just that there are even KZ models around this price-range that outperform the ASF/ASX by a margin. Even the old ZSX was a much better performer.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

So here's a question (I think I've mentioned it before but hey), if someone's got the ZSX but is looking at upgrading, where to next? The ZAX seem to be a no-go and I don't want something more "neutral."

 

[Slater]

Wow, it seems like I made the right call in getting the BA10 during 11.11 after all

 

[Barusu Lamperouge]

Wow, it seems like I made the right call in getting the BA10 during 11.11 after all

With KZ the margin of difference is getting blurred between new and old models. At least that's what many old consumers feel. Now it is very easy to get something very similar to their latest flagships at a substantially low price. Guess that's the downside of coming up with so many iems in a short span with negligible difference.

ZAX/ZSX/ZS10 Pro/ZSN Pro/X/ZSN
BA5/AS10/ASF/12/ASX

One can simply go for the cheapest one and use different tips as per their needs.

 

[Nimweth]

With KZ the margins of difference is blurring between new and old models. At least that's what many old consumers feel. Now it is very easy to get something very similar to their latest flagships at a substantially low price. Guess that's the downside of coming up with so many iems in a short span with negligible difference.

ZAX/ZSX/ZS10 Pro/ZSN Pro/X/ZSN
BA5/AS10/ASF/12/ASX

One can simply go for the cheapest one and use different tips as per their needs.

Don't forget the ZS7!

 

[Slater]

Don't forget the ZS7!

My all time favorite KZ, tied with the ZAX

 

[IEMusic]

When will the KZ ASS be released?

 

[Nimweth]

My all time favorite KZ, tied with the ZAX

My top three are the BA10, ZS7 and ZAX.

 

[alamnp]

When will the KZ ASS be released?

lol, is that for real??? ASS - not a good brand... I would not buy it even if it's that GOOD... not buying an ASS

 

[Barusu Lamperouge]

Don't forget the ZS7!

I purposely ignored them as they are extremely difficult to get nowadays and most probably discontinued as they were limited edition.

 

[LaughMoreDaily]

When will the KZ ASS be released?

That's what audiophiles call every model.

 

[PhonoPhi]

That's what audiophiles call every model.

Every man has his own allusions

 

[Nimweth]

I

I purposely ignored them as they are extremely difficult to get nowadays and most probably discontinued as they were limited edition.

I Found them here:
https://gbr.grandado.com/products/k...s10-zst-ed16-for-sport?variant=36783728558229

 

[TechnoidFR]

So, from the impressions on the ASX and ASF so far i gather their performance is somewhere between excellent and atrocious.

To have a lot and a lot of iem ( my list is clearly outdated ). They are very disappointed. I receive it today and the sound is very weird

CCA C16 and TRN BA8 are far better for me