[peskypesky]

So a local store just have their stocks of the ZSE yesterday. Should I buy or not?

Price?

 

[mono-type]

Price?

Around 11 USD.

 

[trumpethead]

My second pair of ZSE came today. Since they're priced so cheap, I decided to get another.

....so far, no "QC" issues.

CH, where are you ordering from that you are getting then so fast. Link please...

 

[peskypesky]

Around 11 USD.

get 'em

 

[W.Peter]

Is it a bad idea to sanding down Ks5 edges? I found those edges especially the ones close to the logo irritate the most.
And what are the effective ways of burning-in IEMs? I found an interesting one from Z Reviews, but that one he uses it with a headphone. I downloaded the file, and it's a combination of "z" sound and music.
I'm quite new to IEM, and I'd like to know your thoughts on this.

 

[1clearhead]

CH, where are you ordering from that you are getting then so fast. Link please...

Haha....I live in China and for quite some time. So, I won't know if it'll benifit you unless you live here as well. But, nonetheless, here's the link where I got them from.....

First pair I got from here.
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?s...27b&abbucket=4&sku_properties=5919063:6536025

Second pair I bought even cheaper from here.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...Xu4hwn&id=555955005388&ns=1&abbucket=4#detail


-Clear

 

[Slater]

Is it a bad idea to sanding down Ks5 edges? I found those edges especially the ones close to the logo irritate the most.

I'm going to be sanding my ZS5 smoother.

 

[W.Peter]

I'm going to be sanding my ZS5 smoother.

Alright, I'll do it too.

 

[ricemanhk]

Quick question: will uncompressed FLAC/ALAC files improve listening experience with ZS5?

Listening devices are iPod touch 4 and the 5th gen iPad. My Android doesn't provide very good sounds.

My ZS5 is shipping.. Will get after two weeks hopefully. If uncompressed music files provides better sounds, on my devices then I'll download some FLAC music.

FLAC/ALAC vs 128kbps MP3, for sure you'll hear a difference. But if vs 320kbps, really hard to hear...even on pricey speaker systems it's difficult, let alone IEMs.
But hey if you've got the space on your device, go for it.

BTW while apple products generally are quite decent, more and more android devices come with better DACs/amps within the phone e.g. LG G6+
You can always use a separate DAC like Fiio units for better sound. It's mainly the DAC that's giving the improvement though, IEMs don't need much power.

 

[snip3r77]

The two driver ZS5 thing came up around page 1209 (with some better pictures from the original taobao disassembly comments) but still not a sufficiently detailed disassembly to actually "prove" anything since a BA tweeter would only need a tiny pinhole to contribute to the sound, which could easily be missed/damaged while scraping out all that blue goop,,, and a sub-bass DD wouldn't even need a sound channel at all if the tuning intent is for it to pass through the chamber wall...

Mind you I'm not an audio engineer, I'm just parroting back what I read back there.


I do have a tiny bit of electrical engineering experience though, and... even if you completely can't hear them (which I am in no way trying to imply)... attaching addition complex loads to a system can considerably change the overall output, even if it has no direct contribution to the output in the band being considered, right? So even if you can't hear it at all, that BA could still be very significant...

If that were true, one could make the argument that 4 drivers is "marketing hype" because one is being used as something akin to a crossover... but does that even matter if it sounds good? That would be up to you to decide.

FLAC/ALAC vs 128kbps MP3, for sure you'll hear a difference. But if vs 320kbps, really hard to hear...even on pricey speaker systems it's difficult, let alone IEMs.
But hey if you've got the space on your device, go for it.

BTW while apple products generally are quite decent, more and more android devices come with better DACs/amps within the phone e.g. LG G6+
You can always use a separate DAC like Fiio units for better sound. It's mainly the DAC that's giving the improvement though, IEMs don't need much power.

for commuting 320kbps good enough

 

[1clearhead]

So a local store just have their stocks of the ZSE yesterday. Should I buy or not?

All I can say is....they are insanely good!

I like that one driver just draws out the bass/sub-bass (lows), while the other driver, which looks like a transducer, does the upper-range (highs). Great combination!....and the only one I've seen of its kind.

 

[ricemanhk]

All I can say is....they are insanely good!

I like that one driver just draws out the bass/sub-bass (lows), while the other driver, which looks like a transducer, does the upper-range (highs). Great combination!....and the only one I've seen of its kind.

Forgive my ignorance but isn't that how all dual DD IEMs work?

 

[snip3r77]

All I can say is....they are insanely good!

I like that one driver just draws out the bass/sub-bass (lows), while the other driver, which looks like a transducer, does the upper-range (highs). Great combination!....and the only one I've seen of its kind.

Can you pls help to rank this IEM w.r.t iems that you have

 

[1clearhead]

Forgive my ignorance but isn't that how all dual DD IEMs work?

Nah, not most of the time. With dual DD's, they're just wired parallel with the same drivers to perform the same function. These maybe wired the same, but completely different drivers and function.

 

[1clearhead]

Can you pls help to rank this IEM w.r.t iems that you have

I can quickly say that they just bumped all my dynamics (even double DD's) to the side to become my number one dual dynamic drivers to take first place in the dynamic driver area. Other than microphonics being a slight issue (which a shirt-clip can easily fix) they are stellar! They can easily compete with ZS5 and K3 PRO, though constructively more fragile (plastic build) and cables are not detachable. But, the price is insane!...can't get over that price!

They are, in no way, the best looking....but they have an "old retro look" that makes them stand out from most "in-ear" earphones.

-Clear