Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jun 23, 2017 at 3:44 AM Post #18,436 of 63,917
Well looks like I won't be upgrading from the ZST. ZS5 sounds like a less sibilant ZST which is good but I don't really mind the sibilance on the ZST and I'm not really looking for more bass. Also I just prefer the look of the ZST a lot more. Will see how the ZSR turns out I guess
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 3:48 AM Post #18,437 of 63,917
Have tested out the silver cable for a week now, no difference in sound for my ears in my humble opinion. Not that I was expecting any. Going back to the stock cable, it's quite amazing how much it feels like a noodle now lol. New cable is softer and extremely gorgeous and well made especially for the price.
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Jun 23, 2017 at 4:00 AM Post #18,438 of 63,917
Well looks like I won't be upgrading from the ZST. ZS5 sounds like a less sibilant ZST which is good but I don't really mind the sibilance on the ZST and I'm not really looking for more bass. Also I just prefer the look of the ZST a lot more. Will see how the ZSR turns out I guess

ZS5 has much better sound stage and instrument separation. Going back to the ZST things just sound a little muddled. Extra drivers (that work) usually does that...
Of course the difference isn't totally night and day, but it's significant enough for me for the relatively small absolute price difference.
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 5:36 AM Post #18,439 of 63,917
ZS5 has much better sound stage and instrument separation. Going back to the ZST things just sound a little muddled. Extra drivers (that work) usually does that...
Of course the difference isn't totally night and day, but it's significant enough for me for the relatively small absolute price difference.
while the price difference is justifiable, I don't see any need at the moment to upgrade. Just happy with the ZST right now :). Also seems that the opinion is very divided(although never really negative) and QC is still an issue. If I do get it down the line it will be just for fun I suppose.
 
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Jun 23, 2017 at 6:58 AM Post #18,442 of 63,917
made an eq for zs5 to be used with equalizerApo (win).paste the below line in the config.txt in C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config
GraphicEQ: 48.8 0; 60.6 -0.4; 101.4 -2.1; 140.8 -2.7; 196.5 -3.12; 242.4 -3.2; 291.7 -3.2; 401.2 -3.2; 485.7 -3.32; 664.2 -3.4; 814.7 -3.73; 955.5 -4.18; 1044.8 -4.4; 1210 -4.6; 1314.8 -4.77; 1523.6 -5.19; 1729.6 -5.8; 1952.5 -6.3; 2121.4 -6.6; 2379.6 -6.8; 2861.3 -7.05; 3552.6 -7.01; 3767.2 -6.3; 4015.4 -4.6; 4307.3 -1.9; 4504.1 -0.9; 4650.1 -1.9; 4807.1 -3.09; 5063.9 -4.1; 5594.9 -5.86; 6413.7 -7.72; 8428.4 -9.99



let me know what you guys think
 
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Jun 23, 2017 at 8:18 AM Post #18,443 of 63,917
Wouldn't doubt if the top line of Noble audio products costs about $120 to make. The rest is all marketing to people who think changing unshielded cables makes a difference, and that burn in actually exists.
Or don't use good enough kit to hear it or aren't as discerning? Why these silly crusades in IEM threads?:deadhorse: From reports, it seems the silver cable here makes little to no difference on this IEM. I've had very different results with variety of cables on my JH13fp... even if they only cost $120 to make, LOL.:k701smile: Whatever makes you feel good.
 
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Jun 23, 2017 at 9:52 AM Post #18,444 of 63,917
We had "ZSR Pro" packaging leaked, and from it deducted that it looked like Campfire Andromeda copy. It ended up being ZS5 instead. What happened then, did they switch names before releasing ZS5, because now we do know that ZSR is coming as well. Maybe they didn't switch names and ZSR is gonna look similar to ZS5. We will find soon enough probably, why would they print that manual if the headset isn't close to being released.
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 10:18 AM Post #18,445 of 63,917
Or don't use good enough kit to hear it or aren't as discerning? Why these silly crusades in IEM threads?:deadhorse: From reports, it seems the silver cable here makes little to no difference on this IEM. I've had very different results with variety of cables on my JH13fp... even if they only cost $120 to make, LOL.:k701smile: Whatever makes you feel good.

It makes a difference but it's very very slight, hardly surprising it's a $20 IEM.

No offence intended but this post comes across a bit 'look at me' with the mention of a +$1000 and $120 cables, LOL? Whatever makes you feel good though.
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 10:38 AM Post #18,447 of 63,917
We had "ZSR Pro" packaging leaked, and from it deducted that it looked like Campfire Andromeda copy. It ended up being ZS5 instead. What happened then, did they switch names before releasing ZS5, because now we do know that ZSR is coming as well. Maybe they didn't switch names and ZSR is gonna look similar to ZS5. We will find soon enough probably, why would they print that manual if the headset isn't close to being released.

I guess that the IEMs might look quite similar shape-wise if they do indeed plan to keep the design as it appeared on the (prototype?) packaging. However, due to 5 BA drivers per side (and hopefully at least some kind of crossover, but given that their ZN1 and ZS1 also had a crossover I think and hope that they won't just slam five random BAs inside without any crossovers and dampers), I could imagine that they might be somewhat bulkier.
A different colour or even metal as used material (even if it's only for the faceplate) seems likely, too.
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 10:44 AM Post #18,448 of 63,917
I guess that the IEMs might look quite similar shape-wise if they do indeed plan to keep the design as it appeared on the (prototype?) packaging. However, due to 5 BA drivers per side (and hopefully at least some kind of crossover, but given that their ZN1 and ZS1 also had a crossover I think and hope that they won't just slam five random BAs inside without any crossovers and dampers), I could imagine that they might be somewhat bulkier.
A different colour or even metal as used material (even if it's only for the faceplate) seems likely, too.

Only the original ZS1 had a crossover, though the implementation wasn't quite up to snuff. They removed it in later incantations. If they do run with 5BA per side on the ZSR, I really hope they get the tuning right.

ZS1.jpg
 
Jun 23, 2017 at 10:49 AM Post #18,449 of 63,917
Only the original ZS1 had a crossover, though the implementation wasn't quite up to snuff. They removed it in later incantations. If they do run with 5BA per side on the ZSR, I really hope they get the tuning right.

Damn, I didn't know they removed it in later iterations. I really dislike when companies incorporate acoustic changes without indication.

I'm wondering though why they didn't use the same crossover they used in the ZN1 where it worked well.

ZN1 ZS1.jpg

ZN1 yellow, ZS1 (with crossover) green.
 
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Jun 23, 2017 at 11:12 AM Post #18,450 of 63,917
So what's your impression on the cable?
It was just ok. I have not used any bluetooth cable before so i do not have any reference to compare to but if compared to stock cable, the bluetooth just not good in terms of sound quality wise. With the ZS5 connected, the bass becomes even more wooly and loose though somewhat enhanced and some details seemed to be lost. Treble is still there quite bright but it feels less airy as before and the imaging and instrument separation suffered. Of course those are just what i experience, your mileage may vary. On a side note it's pretty lightweight and has an interface that's simple to operate. Battery life wise i'm not sure for such lighweight bluetooth module how long it should last bu reference but ootb without charging, it had lasted me 3 hours + connected to my Note 3 with music playing from poweramp at about 50% volume so i reckon it's pretty good.
 

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